Decent cost effective trigger upgrade?

I’m just wondering what your thoughts are on what the best combination of a cost effective but durable and reliable trigger upgrade to the AR would be. Mine is heavy enough that I can literally hang the rifle with my finger on the trigger and it won’t click. IDK what milspec is so I don’t know if complaining would even be justified, but it would be nice to have a trigger that I don’t have to fight so much to stay on target. I’m not looking for the most complicated match grade unit available - really if I could get a good “normal” trigger around four pounds or so that would do just fine.

The ALG Defense Quality Mil-Spec (QMS) - $45

Tuned by Geissele Automatics

Check out:

http://www.algdefense.com/

Bill Geissele’s wife just started a new division of Geissele triggers that addresses exactly what you’re looking for. Inexpensive, great performance and Geissele quality/finish.

IMHO, with the introduction of the ALG Defense ACT and QMS triggers , Geissele has cornered the AR15 trigger market. Again IMHO, either one of these triggers is all you will ever really need for a RDS carbine.

Thanks. This sounds like exactly what I was wanting - basically a service trigger that doesn’t rival a DA revolver. I’ll check this out and probably make the switch ASAP.

Not necessarily a bad thing. :wink: They do one thing - and they do it damn well.

Geissele products are outstanding and so is their service. Bill and Co. have earned whatever success comes their way.

anyone know if you can use JP yellow springs with the ALG Combat Trigger?

You can, but you might get FTF with certain primers. I ran yellows on a hammer with the tail cut off and didn’t get any FTF out of a thousand or so rounds of XM193.

Yup…I think I just heard Bill Springfield shit himself.

Probably best considering what I’ve heard…

Excellent! I will continue to pop for the regular GA’s, but this is a great thing for those who want an upgraded standard trigger.

This is just my opinion and field experience, RRA’s standard 2-stage trigger is pretty nice, I have two of them with over 8k rounds no hick-ups… again this is just my opinion but RRA’s triggers are nice and have a decent price point.

I was just gonna say just shoot your rifle and break the stock trigger in but this is a great price point for a non “Geiselle” trigger.

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:suicide:

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3022

worth the wait.

On my first build in 2008 i purchased a DPMS LPK. (noob mistake)

Just ordered the ALG Defense ACT to finally get rid of that piece of garbage DPMS trigger.

Those might be a nice economical way for a standard trigger. I might try one or two.

Rock River two stages… Where do I begin?

The horror stories have not made it to my shooting, but after less than a thousand, I realized I wasted my money. Pay my hard earned cash for a eventual DA trigger that I have serious doubts about? That sucks and will not be down that road again.

Changing soon, I guess Bill and co will be getting my money soon.

Trident’s write up on a promising trigger upgrade is here:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=97266

The RRA is completely unsat for anything important.

GI triggers can improve with use. Recommend intensive dry and live fire.

How many rounds through the gun? What type of shooting?

The rifle is a BCM with only about a hundred rounds through it. The trigger had a lot of grittiness to it so I pulled it out and found that there were still machining marks on the surfaces where it engaged the hammer. I carefully took them off with very fine sandpaper to remove most of the terrible creep so it’s basically a two stage trigger now… but heavy. I just feel that the weight of the trigger pull is detracting from the inherent accuracy of the rifle.