I already own a troy fixed rear sight. But i have a new AR, that just needs a rear sight to be finsished. I am very happy with the Troy sights. But I am thinking trying DD fixed rear sight ? Has anyone used both if so which one do you like more. Are there any major differneces beside sides make and design? I just wanted to get some feed back before I make the final choice.
Respectfully, what is it about the Troy that has you considering the DD?
If it is purely out of curiosity, the DD will essentially give you an A1 type site setup with 2 apertures.
I own and use both. They are functionally equal. The Troy is easier to adjust and for me that’s a big plus. However, the DD might be a tiny fraction of an ounce lighter, and its design will probably fatigue less if you install and remove it thousands of times. The DD is also immune to being bumped out of adjustment, but the Troy would only move on its own if a coin slips into the adjustment wheel and turns it (all by itself), or under severe vibration that will probably shake everything else loose as well.
Both have really good features, and I wish all the features I liked about each one could be found in one sight. The Troy has a same plane apeture, which means your zero is the same when switching from large apeture to small apeture. The DD fixed has no real way to get out of adjustment, and I think it just looks better (not a real factor to consider for real world use). I run the DD because the adjustment can’t be changed when the gun is bouncing around in the trunk of my patrol car, or by curious Deputies who feel the need to spin every dial on the gun when they are playing with it. I could install an XS same plane rear and have my cake and eat it too, but I have just never bothered.
[QUOTE=Dos Cylindros;1163708] The DD fixed has no real way to get out of adjustment… I run the DD because the adjustment can’t be changed when the gun is bouncing around in the trunk of my patrol car… or by curious Deputies who feel the need to spin every dial on the gun when they are playing with it. QUOTE]
How would the adjustments get changed while riding in the back of a trunk or such with the troy? Does the DD have stiffer adjustments. I tired looking at pictures but they appear to adjust in the same manner correct.
PrivateCitizen Nothing about the Troy has disappointed me yet. I am always just open to differnent things. Mainly was just a little curious, I thought I would get some feed back and maybe try something new, if I like what I read.
Pick which one you don’t mind looking at for the next 10 years. They are functionally the same.
That sounds like it should be in a cheesy romance movie…
The DD has a square-corned detent that must be manually depressed (or with an A1 rear sight tool) to rotate the adjustment wheel. The Troy has a rounded detent that will depress when enough force is applied to the adjustment wheel. The DD is easy to adjust with an A1 tool, and a bit of a pain without one, although you probably won’t have to adjust it very often.
I have the Daniel Defense one, but have not tried the Troy.
I love my DD rear sight. Rock solid, easy to adjust with a bullet tip, but no risk of it moving otherwise. Slot screw, so it’s easy to take on and off. As has been said, it is very visually appealing. I give it a 10/10 for what it is- a simple, dependable, KISS sight.
I toiled over these two as well with my upper. I went with the DD. It was a bit cheaper and I figured they are equal in over all quality.
And the way I look at it… I can always adjust the DD with a bullet tip if needed and I figure if I have a rifle in my hands I’ll likely have a round, and if I don’t have a round on me then I don’t really need to adjust my sight now do I ?
Please do not overlook the excellent Larue rear sight.
I’m bringing this thread back to life because I plan to change to a set of fixed BUS on my AR. I’m waffling between these exact two sights. I could have flipped a coin and gone either way until I learned that the Troy sight uses a same plane aperture and the DD does not. At least that’s how I understand it to be. Now I wonder how much real world difference this will make. Are there any real pros/cons to either type of sight?
I’m not looking for “I have XYZ and it works for me” type responses. I’m looking for what benefits one type of aperture may offer over the other, or if it’s not something I really need to worry about.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
I have a Daniel Defense fixed rear.
I NEVER use the big hole…
Why not?
I should also mention that this set of sights will be backup to an Aimpoint in case that makes any difference. The Aimpoint will be on a high mount for lower 1/3 cowitness with the BUS.
Wish I could help, but the DD sight I have, I got in a trade with an XS Same-Plane aperture already installed.
This thread has some interesting info, and may help you to decide what is worth “worrying about.” http://www.glockpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3463
Take a look at the Larue. I have had the DD and the Larue and believe that the Larue is much more robust.
Thanks for the link. Luckily I did pretty well at math in school so I was actually able to follow it ok.
I’m starting to think I’ll just go with a same plane sight though.
I did look at the LaRue and while I have no doubt it’s a very good sight, by the time I pay the extra $25 to get the XS same plane aperture I can almost buy a front and rear sight from DD or Troy. Do you feel it’s worth the extra cost?
I have the DD on my DDM4V3, great BUIS. I have the MI offering on another of my rifles. Nice BUIS, very robust. Check out the MI offering. Looks were not part of the equation for me.
I’m guessing you mean Midwest Industries…? If that’s the case all I see on their site are folding sights. Do you have a link?
Because I’ve never found it to be useful for anything.
I shoot NTCH and might as well not even have a rear sight when using the big hole.
I primarily depend on my Aimpoint but if I need to go to irons during the day, the small hole is the only one I can hit anything with.
If I have to go to irons at night, I’m just point shooting because I can’t really see either one good enough to effectively use outdoors with my WML.
If I remove the optic it helps a lot.
Thanks for the explanation. I also tend to shoot NTCH, but the Magpul BUS I currently have only has one aperture so that limits my options to experiment.