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I agree totally. And I predict that he will lose based on your post. Unless SCOTUS does something really outlandish.
weird…you would think they would want to see transfers through an ffl vs. ANY other type just for tracking purposes.
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It is still legal to do this in Florida.
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Sorry to start a thread and run but I had things to do… Anyways, I don’t think being .Mil provides any additional sort of maturity and I say that as a veteran of such. Some of the most asinine, dangerous, dipshit antics I’ve ever seen were by fellow military guys, and quite possibly myself, who were all older than 21.
I’ve also had the priviledge of shooting with one of the fellow member’s sons on this board and I can tell you I wouldn’t hesitate to have him own his own pistol, purchased through an FFL or not. I believe he’s 14 years old, give or take a little, and he shows a greater maturity and safety when handling guns than I’ve seen out of most adults who “know” guns.
Furthermore, any hood rat who wants a Glock .40 can simply purchase one on the black market with no fear of repercussions. Time to head to a b-day party, have a great night!
shall not be infringed. Lets make it where you cant cuss until youre 18?
We should pick an age of majority and grants all rights and privileges of an adult with it.
Have fun, Be safe!
Okay let’s give felons guns.
I am a firm supporter of the 2nd Amendment. There has to be some common sense regulation, or there would be utter chaos.
you dont think felons that truly want a gun arent getting them already?
How do you stop giving someone who doesn’t believe in citizen gun ownership ammunitution to use against you?
The only way is to not own guns, and not allow private gun ownership.
Do you think caving in to them is going to stop their efforts? Do you think you are safe because you are a grown adult, and offering up the young gun owners is going to keep them from going after what you have?
Just when do you draw the line? Their line is EVERY gun in America. Once citizens can be disarmed then we dont need armed cops (see the UK). Once the cops don’t need guns then we don’t need the military, and we can be a “peace” loving nation like they want who sends its wealth to 3rd world countries via the UN (see UN thread lol).
I find it pretty shameful soemone would throw someone else under the bus under the guise of them being able to keep their rights. Why not disallow guns for blacks? They, as a a race, have the highest rate of criminalization out of any racial group in the US. Why not throw them under the bus? Age, race, sex, religion, social disposition? Whats the difference?
The right to bear arms extends to everyone. Even “Urban Youths” provided they can pass NICS, which is the same rules for everyone.
Or does the right to bear arms only apply to okies from muskogee, and suburban yuppies?
Slight side line:
Legislatures have been reducing the thresholds at which people can be convicted of felonies. The felonization of more and more offenses, and the startling rate at which it’s happening, makes the label “convicted felon” nebulous at best and often meaningless.
(See also: “registered sex offender.”)
There should be greater contemplation of which felony offenses should disqualify people, and how long the disqualification should apply. In many cases, there should also be automatic rights restorations.
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Such as my wife’s uncle. Arrested for dealer lever amount of pot, and after he completed his sentence it was reduced to a misdemeanor with his felony conviction being expunged. Now he can own a gun, and even got a UPIN from FBI/NICS.
And yes you are right. Felony its a rather broad term anymore. Once reserved for very serious crimes a felony today, just by the label, doesn’t even mean a person did anything quite bad. I bet we all commit a felony pretty regularly without even knowing it most of the time.
There are many side and opinions to this argument, unfortunately this is not the administration that we can look to for fair and ethical decisions. They are encroaching on our existing 2A rights on a daily basis, I just think we need to pick the battles worth fighting. If we choose to fight them all we will lose those that aren’t as aware as us. Remember Americans aren’t as steadfast as they once were. It’s hard to keep them focused on the big picture, they play checkers not chess.
As for urban youths, a very good friend has an 18 year old son that falls into this category and he stated to me his son will never possess a firearm in his house. He’s going through a tough time with his wife right now, she’s a fervent “my baby didn’t do nothing” type mother. I never meant this a statement of race, just culture.
I guess I’d rather save the resources for critical anti gun legislation. Just this guys opinion.
An American (with their parents co-sign) can join one of the branches of the Armed Services at the ripe old age of 17 and die for their country. An American can’t buy long guns or long gun ammunition until 18, he/she can’t buy a hand gun or a beer until 21 and they can’t rent a car untill they are 25. 
At the age of 18 my dad loaned me an M1 Carbine to keep in the trunk of my car. I purchased a 590 the same year. I was the same person at 18 as I was at 21 when I purchased my Ruger 22/45. There are 40 something year olds that shouldn’t be allowed to drive an automobile or purchase alcohol, much less have the opportunity to legally purchase a firearm. :rolleyes: