I just received my DDM4 V4 and I took it out to the range and it FTF at least 40% of the time, it was so bad that it would misfeed every other round for 2 mags. I did not clean or oil it before taking it to the range, but that should not make that much of a difference. I use 3 different ammo Wolf, silver bear and golden bear, 3 different magazines, Pmag, Colt aluminum mag, and brownelle mags. had the same issue on all the ammo and magazine. Really pissed me off. I shoot the same ammo out of my Double Star and LMT , never ever had an issue with any of the others and used a variety of Magazine across the thsoe other platforms never had issues, I fact on my Double star I never oiled or cleaned it for 2500 round and it still functioned flawlessly. Anyone else had similar issues with Daniel Defense? I bought it because of their reputation for being able to stand up to the extremes and quality, this is not the case in my opinion.
I would clean it, lube it and shoot some different ammunition like Winchester Q3131A or UMC 55g ball before convincing myself there was a problem with the rifle. :big_boss:
I have a new V1LW and my buddy just got a V5 and both run awesome. I would call DD and ask them because that is why I bought there rifle because of there reputation and customer service. I am sure they will take care of you. Also we both cleaned and lubed our guns before we used them. Not sure if that makes a difference.
Thanks, i thought about that too, but my issue is that I am looking for a dead reliable rifle that will work under any condition. regardless of what the environmental is, it’s a battle rifle right. to me that means if it got drag through the dirt and crap and I didn’t have any oil or the right ammo for it or the right mag, would I still trust my life to it. after firing over 140 rounds and I still get misfeed, and I have to go home and clean it and oil it and make sure I find the right ammo, why am I paying dollar for this rifle ? I bought it because of recommendation the Vicker torture test on Youtube and recommended by Kyle Defoor as dead reliable. I don’t want a rifle that I don’t know if it will fire or not when I really need it but may not have the right ammo. I mean we are in that situation right now, there is no supply of .223/556 ammo out there we get what we can, and if this thing is such a queen what’s the point of having it. That’s like a Navy SEAL only going into battle if the ocean is at the right temperature or the air current is just right before jumping out of an plane.
I’ve got a V5 and V1. I’ve learned that mine like a little oil to run steel ammo. I think if you clean and lube it, you’ll be pleased. If not, call DD and they’ll make it right.
Eric
The solution is to clean your weapon first and lubricate with good lubricant. You also need to shoot some decent ammo. Wolf and the other animals don’t apply. If that fails contact Daniel Defense.
Thanks guys, I am glad that you guys are having good experience with the DD. I will contact them and see where to go…I guess I am upset because my expectation for DD is so high…I was really looking forward to getting the gun and putting it through it’s paces and know that I made the right choice and I can depend my life on it. My LMT is absolutely flawless and it will eat anything regardless of condition and my Double star so far have been the same way. I am upset because I thought DD will be at least the same way. I typically take very good care of guns, but I like to test them as well, after all bad thing usually happen in less than ideal situation and I expect that what ever is available to me will work without thinking or worrying.
My Daniel defense v7 runs fine on steel cased Russian ammo, but I keep it well lubed (I keep all my rifles well lubed). Russian ammo like this is generally underpowered too compared to brass cased 5.56 in my experience. A brand new rifles, with no lube, and underpowered Russian steel ammo seems like it might cause issues.
What kind of misfeed are you seeing? How old are your 3 mags? I know magazines are hard to come by right now, but you might try another mag too.
Edit: like I said, brand new rifle, dry with no lube, underpowered Russian steel cased ammo. I wouldn’t blame the rifle
The Mags are all brand new, I just got the aluminum mags I bought a bunch just before the whole shooting thing went down, and I used the PMag that came with the Daniel Defense rifle.
Can you describe the malfunction a little more? Any pictures?
I really think that once you clean and lube your gun you will not have any more issues.
[QUOTE=racezx9;1494482] it was so bad that it would misfeed every other round for 2 mags. I did not clean or oil it before taking it to the range, but that should not make that much of a difference. I use 3 different ammo Wolf, silver bear and golden bear, 3 different magazines, Pmag, Colt aluminum mag, and brownelle mags. had the same issue on all the ammo and magazine. QUOTE]
Does it truly happen every other round? Could possibly indicate a mag issue because it would be misfeeding either on the left side or the right side, but not both? Also if you watched the torture test from Vickers as you stated above, LAV lubed and cleaned the AR before starting its first rounds and also before and after testing it from sand and mud They can run dry but run much better lubed and cleaned.
Sorry no pictures, but there were several issues of mis feed. One issue is a I fire and then I pull the trigger again and no fire on the follow up round, I look the bolt is closed and if i pull the charging handle it would load the next round and fire and it would happen again and again, I would drop the Mag and fire the the round in the chamber, reseat the mag and it would fire fine for a few rounds. The second issue is a round would get fed from the magazine after the previous round has been fired, but it would not go all the way into the chamber, it would be hung at about an 30 degree angle between the mag and the chamber. Another issue is after I finish a full magazine, the bolt would not remain open for the next magazine (that happen 50% of the time). I also had an issue where a round would load but the bolt doe not go all the way in and when I pull the trigger it would not fire and then I pull the charging handle thinking that scenario 1 happen and then around get jammed into the back of the round that is already chambered, very frustrating. I have never had anything like this ever happen on any AR ever, it seems too temperamental to be just a clean and Lube issue. The Rifle is brand new and it is dry when I took it apart, but unlike a dirty rifle that is dry, it not full of foul and residual that can cause something like this. I can see it not performing to it full potential but to to jam 40% of the time is crazy. I had to basically fire a round and recharge after every round for almost 2 Magazines at one time…I thought maybe break in but never ever seen this before.
Brother, don’t take this the wrong way, but the part in bold is dead wrong.
Lube it liberally with a quality lube (like Slip 2000 EWL). The reason cheaper guns work with little lube (or non) is because their gas ports are the size of a $0.50 hooker’s twat (Read: HUGE).
DD uses smaller, mil spec gas port sizes and thus requires some quality lube…especially when first fired.
I think now that the OP clarified the actual things happening, this in red seems to be the issue at hand more than magazines. It sound like in scenario 1, it is short stroking due to friction of no lube, and in scenario 2, friction of the actual bullet and bolt not being able to fully chamber from lack of lube
I will lube the gun and take it out again and see what happens, Thanks all for the advice. Still my LMT is Milspec but don’t seem to have same issue but them maybe they deliver it with lube in it.
I do like the TWAT comment …:laugh::laugh:… Lube I guess goes for more than an AR bolt then.
You should oil your weapons before taking them to the range, especially if new.
That being said… Something is wrong with your rifle. I’ve got a DD MK18 SBR upper and the only problem I’ve ever had was I got a Wolf case stuck in the chamber on my first trip to the range with it, but that was after like the 6th box with inadequate lubricant. I’ve seen piece of shit Del-ton ARs with no lube blow through box after box of Wolf steel case without issue. I agree with your sentiment that the rifle should still function reasonably with little or no oil and bad ammo because all five of the ARs I’ve ever owned have. Don’t even waste the time and ammo trying to diagnose the problem, just tell DD your gun is sucking and they’ll fix it.
Hehe, thx. Cop humor. 
Yeah, don’t be stingy with the lube, the BCG should be almost dripping if you’re using CLP…slightly less so if you use Slip 2000 EWL or froglube.
Make sure and lube the sides of the gas key, the carrier rails, the bottom of the carrier, the entire ass-end of the carrier, and the bolt should be soaking wet (including the lugs, the bearing band just behind the extractor, the cam pin hole, and the gas rings).
The phosphate coating is very rough. It will certainly wear-in with a little bit of shooting and some good lube. Keep us posted.
I see all the time on the range people shooting ARs bone dry wondering why they malfunction. Just this morning there was a guy with a bushmaster whose rifle was so dry and dirty you could see the bolt moving back and forth every time he fired so slowly I was amazed it would even chamber.