DA/SA and striker fired pistols

Mr. Defoor,

First, I would like to thank you for taking the time to share your opinions and experiences with us.

While reading your blog, I noticed that you recommended two pistols, the SIG Sauer P226 and the Glock 17, both of which have completely different actions. I would like to hear your opinion on the pros and cons of each system.

Also, there’s been a lot of negativity regarding the DA/SA pistols on the internet in regards to being too hard to learn/master the transition between the two pulls. Do you think that a DA/SA pistol is as much of a hindrance as people make it out to be? Personally, I do not have a problem with the DA/SA trigger (SIGs) since it is what I have trained with and carried at work for years.

Obviously you have had extensive time using DA/SA pistols during training and operationally while in NSW. Can you share some tips and drills that would help new shooters learn the DA/SA action, or drills that can help people maintain their proficiency with it?

Thanks again.

I shot a Sig for over 12 years but switched while at BW because I realized how obsolete a DA/SA gun is. I do love a Sig for ergos and the fact that it’s one of the most accurate out-of-the-box pistols ever, but at some point you have to come on over for the big win (striker fired guns).

To me, there is just no good reason to shoot a pistol with a hammer anymore. We don’t have different trigger pulls on carbines, so why have them on a pistol? Additionally, a striker fired pistol, like a Glock, has a very close trigger weight to that of a carbine- so there’s less difference in the platforms on the trigger control level.

All that said, I learned to shoot a Sig proficiently. I actually preferred the DA during slow fire at 25 yds! How I got there was a lot of practice prepping the trigger as I was presenting to the target. A good measuring scale is if you can pull the trigger to the rear and stop halfway on demand, almost putting into a half cock position.

The new SRT (short reset trigger) is a good bet too, to reduce how much slack a Sig naturally has during reset. To see yourself, just look how much the trigger moves when you cock it.

Also keep in mind that during fast shooting, like a bill drill, you are basically doing a controlled slap of the trigger on a gun like a Sig.

I don’t buy the whole “no one can shoot a DA as good as a striker” argument. Remember that Ernest Langdon won worlds one year, beating Rob Leathem at the same time, shooting a Sig P226!!!

Kyle, didn’t y’all’s work 226’s have triggers that were 4lb DA, and 2lb SA?

Thanks,
Kevin

Negative. 226s were stock.

Thanks for the great insight Kyle.

Since you mentioned a current preference for a striker fired gun over one with a hammer, could you share your thoughts on the 1911? Thanks!

I appreciate the 1911’s innovations 100 years ago. Without it we would not have the modern semis we have. But seriously, 7 shots? mediocre performance without heavy expensive mods? and a caliber that still is not proved is better than 9mm? - not for me.

Thanks for the reply Kyle. I do have a few more questions though.

Why do many of the worlds top tier SOF (including your former Unit), still select and issue DA/SA pistols?

Also, what do you think of H&K’s “LEM” trigger?

Because backdoor deals and kickbacks rule the world of buying on that level.

It really matters not to us as long as whatever we have works;

  1. We will use what we have to the best of it’s ability and ours.
  2. You can issue Tier 1 personalities a slingshot and they’ll still win.

Not familiar with that LEM thing, sorry.