Currently I’m carrying a Glock 22 which is fine in the winter but less so for spring and summer. I’ve thought about a CZP01, Walther PPQ, Glock 19, S&w M&P 2.0C. I have not shot any pistol other than a Glock. I want a 9 millimeter because I can shoot more of it for cost savings. I know the Glock 19 is an All Star but I wanna buy a handgun that I don’t have to throw hundreds of dollars into to make better. Any thoughts on your favorite CC gun?? I’m not sure That I could feel comfortable with a Shield or Glock 43. 13 rounds minimum in a gun is what I believe in.
How is your G22 set up? You are carrying a Glock already…what changes would you need to make to a stock G19? Sights are most common universal upgrade, and they cost under $100 for night sights.
All your choices are solid guns, but the reality is a G19 isn’t all that much smaller than a G17/22. PPQ is in-between the two, size wise. M&P 2.0C is same size as the G19. CZP01 is a great gun but the CZ P10C is striker fire and again, basically G19 size.
And if you want a Glock 19, what about a Glock 23? You could consolidate on .40 S&W ammo. And you may be able to find a LEO trade in for a good price…
Lots of options…
As for my favorite CC handgun, I am almost always carrying either a Shield or a Glock 26 when I’m carrying a firearm around people. Woods and boonies where critters like hogs, feral dogs, and lions are a possibility changes things to a G23/G21.
I’m far away from the “always G19 guy”, in fact I traded away all my Glocks and centered on CZs, but being that you have a 22 and are familiar with the platform, there’s really no reason not to go with a 19 of some generation. Swap sights to some you’re quick and accurate with, buy a few more mags, and a bunch of ammo. You can even probably reuse your holsters.
Well its a bone stock gen 2 Glock 22. Only mid is rubber talon grips. Stock sights I’m a bit if a perfectionist on how the gun feels in my hand because I have ulnar neuropathy in my strong hand. That means my pinky finger and the finger next to it are weaker. Its not too bad but it dies affect my grip on the gun. I thought of getting stippling done to it but I would have to see an example of a stippled Glock. But its funny you mention the Glock 26 because my pinky would be off the gun. It might be positive for me. I held a Glock 26 once. I said wow this is small but I never shot one. I think for me 9 millimeter might be the better caliber but I’m keeping my Glock 22.
Hold a P-01, love a P-01. I am trying to find one right now so I can add it back to the stable. FYI, I was deep in CZs for a while and in some temporary mental instability I sold them all for M&P’s. But, I am rebuying my compact at least and using my M&P’s still. It is really the only CZ I want anymore.
Yeah I just got to find one to see how it fits in my screwed up hand. One thing with the CZ P01 is that it can’t get the cahun gun works trigger upgrade?? I’m asking the question that something us changed on the new one’s. I read it somewhere. If so I’m not digging that first trigger pull. One of the reasons I like the CZP01 is that it is a metal gun and the Glock 19 is plastic and can be limp wristed. I wouldn’t feel good about giving a woman a 9 millimeter Glock thinking their not gonna get limp wrists with it. My thinking is when you pull the trigger if a gun it should go bang and not limp wrist. Due to the metal frame if the CZ it will be resistant to limp trusting. I know if you hold a 9 millimeter Glock correctly it won’t happen. Because of the light weight it is susceptible to limp wristing. Although to be honest I have never fired a 9 millimeter Glock. I’m just interested in that CZ P01 but if I go to the range and rent a Glock 19 and have 0 problems I might buy a Glock 19. For now NY Glock 22 is OK but the trigger is not so good in my opinion. The thing I learned is too never sell a gun. You wind up losing money.
All the guns you listed are great choices. It all comes down to what you like and feel confident with. I carry a Glock 17 . I personally like it better then the 19. I can’t get a full purchase in the 19. The holster is just as important. I tried everything out there. I found with the full size guns galco master pancake works the best for me. For sub and compact I like Raven. Good luck
I think the biggest problem I have with the gun is the grip even though I added rubber talon grips. I don’t feel it made a big difference.
The P01 can be upgraded with a full CGW kit.
I carry one and shoot a Shadow in competition. I also shoot a UG P09 suppressed.
My P01 is a full CGW competition kit, sights, 85C trigger, and thin grips. Carries well and shoots better.
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While I’m 99.9% headed PPQ on my next buy that’s a very nice set up.
I must have read it wrong. Someone said a new P01 couldn’t be upgraded with what you got. Something that they all have the Omega trigger or something. Anyway I like having a metal carry gun. I got nothing against polymer but hesitant on 9 millimeter Glock after seeing malfunctions easily being induced.
I have PPQs, Glock 19s and recently added a M&P 2.0 compact. On the hip I can tell no difference in any of them. You couldn’t either. Shooting them I like the PPQ and 2.0 compact better than the Glock.
I can’t imagine being without at least one Glock 19 since I’ve owned them for so many years. But, I will never buy another one. In the last several years there have been a number of 15-round polymer framed strikers introduced that I like at least as well, or better, than my G19s.
Any of the polymer strikers you mention in the body of you post are excellent guns. The PPQ definitely has the best ergonomics and trigger. And I’m shooting the whiz out of the 2.0 compact since I got it. If it proves as perfectly reliable after another thousand rounds it will probably replace my G19s for cold weather carry. I do carry my 4" PPQ but haven’t put night sights on it so it is a day-only carry option.
From a pure fun to shoot standpoint, I enjoy shooting my 5" PPQ Q5 Match more than any polymer framed striker fired handgun that I’ve ever owned or shot. The PPQ is simply a superb handgun in any its variations.
I’ve never owned a CZ, but that photo posted by Kenneth sure looks good. A relative of mine sings the praises of that same gun and when I next look at a metal gun it will be the first one I want to handle and shoot.
OP, no one can pick a gun for another shooter any more than we can pick a pair of shoes for that person. We’re all different. Good luck with your choice and may you shoot it in good health.
CZ is going to have the heaviest trigger pull. First shot is double action… around 10#. It’s also the costliest to upgrade.
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I’ve had G19, PPQ, and VP9. Of the three, I found the PPQ and VP9 pretty much equivalent, and both vastly superior to the Glock 19 in almost every way. Having said that, if I carry a gun, it is virtually always a Walther PPS.
If I went SF with the choices above I’d go PPQ with one caveat - I’m leery of the huge SS and premature slide lock, but it MAY be a non-issue. Paddles are superior and can be trained to in minutes.
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If you have some mechanical inclination, the P01 is upgrade-able, and the initial DA can come down CONSIDERABLY. I have a stock CZ Compact (same trigger), and threw in a 17LB hammer spring and the DA is at LEAST as light feeling as my G19. All I needed to do was polish the trigger bar and sear cage engagement. It is SLICK. Better than most good revolvers. And, BTW, the DA is short - because the P01/PCR decock to half cock. Also, if you don’t have to carry a light, the PCR is a bit lighter. The CGW kit above will also correct the SA pull. Plenty of folks have spent more on their Glock upgrades. You will LIKELY have to upgrade the sights too though, but many here do that on any gun OTB anyhow.
Wait, does your glock 22 have a ny trigger?
I was thinking the same thing
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An $8 (eight) reduced power hammer spring from Cajun will make that DA trigger around 8 lb real quick. Been there, done it to three CZs.
Had a PPQ, very accurate and awesome trigger. Too awesome of a trigger, I never had a chance to measure the pull, but it was scary light. So I’m sticking with my CZ P07 ghetto blaster.
I don’t understand why more people don’t carry the PPQ. I’ve never held or fired one but the gun from what I read has better ergonomics and the best trigger of any polymer gun out there. One thing I noticed with the PPQ is recoil because of the higher bore axis compared to a Glock. Even in 9 millimeter you can see a difference in recoil on YouTube video’s comparing the two. One of the things I dislike most on my gen 2 Glock 22 is the grip even with the rubber talon grips.
Ergonomics and trigger feel are subjective.
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