As some may know, I’ve been running a bone stock P-07 as my game gun. I’ve done zero maintenance other than cleaning every so often. Idea is run it until it breaks.
It won’t be a surprise to CZ people but I did break a trigger return spring today. I just manually reset the trigger to finish off the box.
I have a replacement that I bought right after I purchased the pistol when making my magazine and holster order.
Going to keep pushing and see where we go.
The data;
9MM fired at time of failure - 6,289
22 LR fired prior to failure - 3,440
Dry fires prior to failure - No idea
The P-07 did put down a good final run about 50 rounds before failure in its factory form.
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Am I the only one who thinks that it’s kind of ridiculous that the TRS is so prone to breaking? Could be at 200 rounds, could be at 15k rounds. But it might break.
It’s one of those things that has been going on for so long that it has become expected. Right or wrong, people somewhere along the line just started accepting it.
Most just add a TRS replacement at an interval they are comfortable with. If I was carrying this gun (or actually taking care of it) the TRS would have been replaced along with all other springs by now. But, that would defeat the purpose of my desire to run it in stock form until it breaks.
Service intervals be damned, we’re letting it break for science.
Yoni , if its who Im thinking of , I took a class from him last Summer and at that time he had over 60,000 rounds through it with zero failures/issues .He also let me " play " with his P07 to compare with my PPQ … hope to have one from CGW in the next several months ( 9 week lead time ) .
I am sure it is who your thinking of. My CGW P07 has become my favorite handgun and I own what I think are a few cool handguns. Custom Hi Powers, HKP7, Cougar .357mag.
Just for peace of mind (not that I was staying up late worrying about TRSs) I replaced both of my P07’s with the CGW springs. My practice/dryfire mule probably has well over 10k. between live and dry-fire, my carry much less, probably about 2k.
I also just switched out the TRS in both my P01 and my PCR with the Cajun version. As an FYI, if you have the HK TRS tool, it makes life much easier for the CZs as well.
The one must replace part on the CZ is the TRS. The CGW fix is good. Keep in mind my case is extreme and I had two 03 Guns when CZ had a bad run of springs. Fortunately, we now have CGW.
The other thing is the trigger. The P series is capable with work of being very good. They can come smooth or incredibly gritty. Recently picked up an incredibly smooth p09. Have a p07 that started out with avterrible trigger and is excellent now.
Another piece is the firing pin retaining pin. I’ve never had a broken spring on my 07 but I have broken a firing pin retaining pin. Scary thing was it was on my carry gun and I don’t know how long it was like that and only found out when I went to the range to cycle through my carry ammo because the firing pin was stuck and I got a click and no bang.
Very informative thread… I’m somewhat new to shooting CZ pistols but after picking up a Cajunized P07 I’ve bought a P01 Compact and a Shadow 2. The P01 and Shadow 2 are unmolested so I may think about replacing the parts mentioned here. So far so good but I’ve just begun to shoot those pistols.
