I noticed plated bullets, a lot of bullets actually, are copper jacketed/plated. Is there a benefit to guilding metal vs pure copper for pistol rounds or does it not matter. Just a question of curiosity.
Good guilding jacketed bullets have shot more accurately for me. But the plated bullets are cheaper to shoot.
I have been using berrys plated for a while now and like them. The idea of plating their lead bullets is to keep from leading barrels, and it works well. You have to load them like a lead bullet though.
I like the hornady fmj bullets but for shooting paper the plated bullets cost wise , work great. Give some a try just don’t over crimp and you will like them. I buy the hornady fmj and put them away and shoot the berrys at the range.
I don’t really shoot over 25 yards so I don’t notice much of a difference between the berrys and the hornady fmj outa a glock 19 ,as markm said a good fmj is a bit better you can push them faster than plated.
But for the money you save even if you didnt like them you can always go back. The key is not hot loading them or over crimping. Over 750 rounds and I’ve not noticed any leading but I clean my guns after shooting. I pick up a box of 250 berrys 9mm at Cabelas for like 25 bucks. For $25 give um a try.
One thing I’ve noticed with the berrys is they dont seem to flatten like a lead bullet their slick and will penetrate,i tryed to stop one in a 4×4 and it went through and kept going, loaded at 4.2 ,with 4.4 being max charge useing win.231. I thought it wouldflatten out and stop, I was wrong.lol
Thanks guys. I currently use barrys, but was wondering if they were plated with guilding metal if there would be a benefit.
I know some bullets like gold dot are copper plated, and there doesn’t seem to be a performance difference, but thought maybe I missed something.
Basically why is guilding metal used at all, rifle bullet integrity?
This is news to me…
AFAIK, Gold Dots are jacketed, and bonded, NOT plated.
Correct… They have a thin metal jacket not a coating. Think of a nickel, it’s made of copper but with an elecroplated nickel finish on the outside. Berrys have like a very thin electroplating of copper over a lead bullet to help it from leading up barrels. Not an actual metal jacket.
Gilding metal is an alloy, 95% copper 5% zinc usually. Copper is a relatively soft metal and can foul a barrel like lead, though not as rapidly as copper is harder than lead. Barnes TSX shooters are familiar with extra copper fouling as they are 100% copper projos.
Zinc is much harder than copper or lead. The addition of zinc in gilding metal serves to make the jacket a little harder and reduce copper fouling significantly when compared to 100% copper.
This is my understanding with a small metallurgical knowledge base.
Where are you finding this? I’ve read it’s plated, and the product description would fit, but it’s not explicit, so I don’t know for sure.
Unfortunately some people would rather start an argument becouse they have no life than take a simple explanation (not you OP). Just not going to say any names becouse it will do no good.
The difference between a jacketed bullet and an electroplated bullet are not hard to figure out. I think I explained it.
Seriously why do we have to run each other into the ground on a damn chat board were people are trying to learn new stuff. If you take the time to read how this board or why this board was started off a split from arfcom it might explain some things. I’ve never been a member there. Take the time and check it out for your self…
Lets see if this post stays up. Run it down and me down but do the search for yourself. Then see half this stuff is just an advertisement for people that basically run this board. I think if all the post you find are false then someone would have sued someone by now.
Why is Rob_s who invented the god only shoots these guns list of why your ar15 sucks not here anymore etc ? Why when your colt breaks its just ohh well sometimes mistakes happen but anything else is junk? When anybody thats been in the service has seen tons of them fail when your ass is hanging out at the most important time of your life?
When everbodys scared to speak out against some guy that build weapons that will never see anything but the front seat of a patrol car who may empty 2 mags in anger in his whole career, maybe? If iam wrong tell us about your super secret seal team 6 contracts you got…Lol REALLY? There’s some of the best info here on the net if you dont mind getting shit on for asking an honest question half the time.
PS. Gold dots are a jacketed bullet , Not plated.
Why won’t anyone state who makes bcm lowers or barrels or what lpk kits they use or even who makes there bolts or bcg? Do you expect us to believe you don’t know??? I think if truth be told you would be shocked becouse you guys don’t really believe they make them in-house? There’s only a few companies making them.
Prove to us there the best and tell us who makes them and why were paying so much for (the best)…lol bet they dont becouse this question been asked a thousand times here with no response.With all the experts here but can’t answer these simple questions that have been asked over and over…So OP don’t let these guys upset you for asking a question.
Stand up and stop being sheep and demand answer for the money you spend instead of taking some guys answers you don’t know or will ever even meet. Its the internet people. I’m beginning to wonder if half the time people whos lifes are just screwed up ,get on here just to blast people they know they will never meet.just to make them selves feel better about still living in thier moms basement…alone…
Hitting the bottle a little hard tonight?
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Nope just tired of seeing people getting crap for asking a question on a chat board. That just want an answer. Not hard to figure out really… How bout you? Screw it iam done…have fun getting answers like that…your reply was very helpfull…
Okay, thanks. Btw, I emptied my pm box now.
This is correct.
I don’t think you can plate with an alloy/guilding material. It’s pure copper to plate… as I understand it.
I’ve seen that thrown around a lot, but it’s false. Alloys can be plated, but it’s more difficult to control, so maybe that’s why no one does it?
I suppose the juice ain’t worth the squeeze, and it seems the juice isn’t any better for pistol rounds anyways from what you all are telling me.
That is also my understanding. Even if you could get both elements suspended in solution I don’t see how you could control the percentages. But its been a long time since my last chemistry class.
Like I said, it’s possible, but you are not going to get a kit off Amazon and start plating anything useful.
Companies hire engineers for stuff like that.