I’ve had a Glock 19 since I turned 21 eight years ago. I’ve shot several thousand rounds through the guns (actually had 3 of them) and competed with them as well. I’m very confident with the Glock 19. I also have a factory threaded barrel and an AAC Evo9 for it. The things I wish I could change about the Glock are the grip hump and the trigger, it pinches my finger between the bottom of the trigger and the trigger guard.
At the range today I shot my buddy’s M&P 9. It solved all of the issues of the Glock for me as well as having a softer recoil impulse and 2 additional rounds in the mag, but about the same overall size.
What would I be giving up to swap the Glock for an M&P? How is resale on silencers?
S&W sells a M&P9 combo which has both a standard barrel and a threaded barrel (and a M&P45 like that too). Resale sucks on suppressors. All you may have to do is get a different booster for your current suppressor to use it on the M&P.
You can get a grip reduction done to the Glock to remove that hump in the back, there are several shops that do it. M&P’s are great guns, and I don’t think you’d be giving up reliability or accuracy in switching, if you can shoot the M&P as well as you do the Glock.
Just my .02, I like the Glock trigger a little better, but of course YMMV. And as far as I know, resale on suppressors is terrible. Why wouldn’t that one work with the M&P?
As far as reliability is concerned they are the same in my opinion. M&P 9’s have hit and miss accuracy issues beyond 15 yards in some. Its really a toss up if you end up with accuracy issues but it is very real problem. You should check out the thread about it. If that is not a concern then the only problem may be with the trigger of the M&P. Did your friend have an Apex DCAEK installed? The trigger on a new M&P can be very gritty and has a very weak reset. However Apex did help the situation tremendously but its something else you have to buy. The only other annoying aspect of the M&P is that within the first 100 rounds you might have the front sight’s white paint fall out. This has happened to me and 7 of my friends regardless of model, however S&W will make things right. (A huge plus for the M&P is the outstanding customer service and warranty S&W has.)
Anyway it may sound like a painted a bad picture of the M&P, but honestly I still prefer M&P over Glocks but that is what works for me. I have no clue about resale value on silencers so can’t help there.
I know the can would work with the M&P, but it’s more of a novelty and I only paid the tax on it so I don’t have anything in it. My thought was if I could sell the 19, Metacarpal holster, 6 mags, silenced, and factory threaded barrel and get pretty close to the price of two M&P’s that would be nice…one for home, one for carry.
The great thing about guns is if you search for the one you want you can usually find a great price. Later if you don’t care for it you can sell it and hopefully not lose any money. Go with the one that you like. It’s no sin to have your g19 and an m&p or sell the g19 and get the m&p. If grip is an issue the new g4 has changeable back straps like the m&p.
What would you really be gaining that a few minutes with a Dremel to fix the trigger guard won’t solve? Does the hump actually affect your shooting? If you’ve got thousands of rounds through the platform by now it should be a non issue IMO, but that can be fixed too.
I have a G27 w/NS and love the gun.
I’m also in the process of getting a M&P .40C with the frame Cerakoted OD & keep the slide black w/VTAC NS and a Competition AEK from APEX.
Can’t wait to take it to the range and see how well it compares to the G27.
Yes, really. When I think of serious issues, they involve the gun just not being reliable.
The accuracy thing is hit and miss and since most people cannot shoot 8" groups at 25yds anyway, I wouldn’t get to excited about it.
On top of that, Bar-Sto is going to have some semi-drop in barrels that will fix any accuracy issues.
Yeeeaaah, cause older proven G19’s are quite desireable. OP - sure give the differant gun a go. Probably won’t make a big night and day difference in results but it stimulates the gun economy.
I didn’t say I couldn’t shoot it well. It’s just not comfortable. I’ve scored a few 500’s in the indoor GSSF Leauge matches, so that means I can shoot at least 8" groups offhand @ 25yds. That was all with my box stock 19. Not saying I’m a ninja or anything, but I’ve been fortunate enought to have some excellent pistol instruction.
So yes, I can do it with a Glock, but I don’t enjoy it. It’s the same as using a CAR stock on an M4. Does it get the job done? Sure, but my SOPMOD feels a whole lot better and allows me to shoot better because I’m more relaxed and comfortable.
Now, that being said, the 9mm accuracy issues in the M&P 9 are a bit concerning to me. I guess I could take a gamble and then send 'em back if they don’t work. I just wonder how big the issue really is. I think it’s harder to quantify than a failure issue, though, because far fewer people proportionally are able to shoot a pistol well enough to quantify the accuracy issues.
I’m just not really seeing a compelling reason to change platforms & trade off mags, holsters, reinvest in sights, ect to fix something that can be resolved relatively easily. I ditched my G19 and got an M&P9C because I convinced myself that I needed the ambi capability of the slide release… that I never use and is difficult to manipulate. So I sold off the Glock & lost a ton of money and I’m still getting the Smith set up comparably to how I had the Glock. In the end, it worked out I suppose. The M&P conceals a bit better than the G19, & I can get to the mag release a bit better and I have a viable way to use a laser but overall not much difference. I’m just hoping that you don’t fall into the same self-created trap that I did.
ASH556–I love the M&P and am currently qualified on both M&P and Glock. However, in your case, I don’t think I would change just yet. If you have proven, reliable G19’s, I would NOT get rid of them; a good G19 is about the best overall handgun available, so why go away from a proven performer? There is a reason why so many seasoned professionals in top LE and military organizations choose the G19 over all other options. More importantly, it sounds like you have not fully reached the maximum potential in your shooting of the G19. There are numerous easy to perform modifications to relieve the trigger guard and eliminate the backstrap “hump” to make the pistols more comfortable for your hand. If you were shooting 500+ rounds per week and had gotten good instruction from some of the better trainers in the industry, had modified the pistols to your liking, and still had issues with the G19, then you might consider switching–but until you have reached that plateau, I’d stick with optimizing what you have. Finally, before considering switching, I’d pick up an M&P and shoot it for a year or so–at least 5000 rounds over 12 months, as well as a couple high intensity classes to ensure to will work for you. Don’t be one of those fools who jump from pistol to pistol just for the sake of change, to be different, or trendy…learn to truly master the superb tools you already own.
