the Emag is a true STANAG mag, then? i thought i remembered reading that they worked fine for some european guns but not so well in ARs for some reason- bullshit?
i’ve only had one malfunction since using pmags for the last year, about 11k-12k rounds. bolt over based firing suppressed with Federal .223 50gr HP in a really dirty gun. bullet was mashed at the nose and set back in the cartridge- fed too slow, i guess. i drilled a hole through the mag just to be on the safe side.
its been conclusive evidence for me… pmags are righteous.
i do still use STANAG mags, though. diversity is reliability.
The NHMTG and Okays are the most consistent as far as dropping free and have the seam in the rear that is flat and square.
Some lesser brands, the seam in the rear doesn’t lay flat but bulges slightly inbetween the spot welds.
DSG magazine with the telfon coating are not milspec. I have some of these and the material doesn’t seem to feel as thick. The ones I have are about 5 years old. I do not know what DSG sells now.
Because it is weaker material and rusts. I don’t care how resistant it is to taking a set. I’ve never felt my SS magazine springs for any of my firearms “took a set” and that I needed to worry about this.
If they did, I would throw out the old spring and get a new one.
I have enjoyed the heck out of my Pmags. I am very impressed with both their performance and durability. In my experience, they are superior to the GI mags in most ways.
I still keep GI mags around, however, for a few reasons.
There is room in the world for both types of mags. When reaching for one to go use, however, I almost always grab a Pmag.
The darned things just lock in so solid and index so much better, it’s almost a sin. They are a pleasure to use.
CS springs look like this after being pulled from storage. Yes the mag still worked, but the spring was replaced with a standard SS one. Rust anywhere in the system is unacceptable.
The above is why the TAPCO magazines aren’t what they could have been.
Despite feeding well, and functioning well, this is definitely the weak link in those mags.
Magpul set the new standard for magazines, and TAPCO was given the opportunity to take the ball and run with it, but took a step backwards, in my humble opinion.
I’ve had a weird problem of failure to strip a round from the mag during the fire. I couldn’t explain it and never asked any questions - thought maybe my carbine or I were at fault. Later on I came across a report of exactly same problem on another message board. Still have no clue what that meant, but at least I am not imagining it.
I’ve had 2 fully loaded Lancers drop - back to back, one after another - from my rifle after a reload during the drill. This certainly could’ve been my error of not fully seating those magazines. However, given that during 4 classes taken over last 1.5 years those were the only two instances of mags falling out of my rifle, I have to question mags too.
Lancers do not allow for a bolt lock on empty mag with SCAR, nor do they allow dropping the bolt with bolt release button on that weapon.
I too have had that problem with the Lancer… I didn’t think much of it until I read the last post. I went back and watched the video I had from the range that day. I inserted a half loaded mag into my rifle with the bolt closed, I used the same force I have used for Pmags and USGI mags and when I tried to charge the rifle it started to fall from the rifle. after reading the above post I am pretty sure it is going to be a range mag…
IMO Pmags rock:D
Yes - feed lips! Don’t mind me, my mind tends to wander.
But yes, bad contract mags are not worth messing with. You really can’t fix them. I’ll try to get some pics up of what to look for at the feed lip area.
One mag, purchased in early 2008 fails to lock back on a empty mag with a Noveske N4 upper.
No problems with Lancers (i keep them loaded at 28, very hard to seat at 30) and P-mags so far.
I have honestly tried to abuse my Lancers, and they’ve held up quite well. I toss PMAGs and Lancers loaded/half loaded onto concrete frequently. A while back, I was going to weekly rifle league matches at an indoor range.
PMags have become my defacto standard in AR mags. I’ve probably got 3 or 4 dozen GI mags, and have no problem using them - but I realize that’s culled down from the 5 or 6 dozen I had a few years back. As I wear one out, I toss it or keep it in a range bag for training and replace it with PMags.
Out of all the PMags I’ve picked up over the years, I have yet to cull one due to reliability. The first one I ever bought is still hanging out in a mag shingle - unable to be picked out from the last one I bought aside from my markings… I’ve never been one to keep “round counts” on individual mags, but knowing my ammo purchase history and the number of PMags I own coupled with my shooting habits - I know that they’ve surpassed the round counts on my aluminum mags that I’ve depleted by nearly half over a similar time frame. Short story - One type of mags is attriting at a marked rate, and the other is staying more or less static…
Hell, aside from 6.8 mags, I can’t remember the last time I bought anything other than a PMag…
There may be other “niche” mags floating around that excel in some category or other - but for bone reliable, rugged, not-gonna-fuck-me-over-and-leave-me-doing-a-suprise-mag-change-at-the-worst-possible-moment magazines, the PMag is it for my money…
Wish like hell some evil genius would find a way to adapt them to the 6.8 - I’d ARgasm…
after reading the above post I am pretty sure it is going to be a range mag…