I do see your point a0.
I was thinking of the 100,000,000+ Americans who might believe that conservative=warmonger. But some conservatives are.
Then you get into “well, then they’re not actually true conservatives”, and the discussion heads that way.
So you make a good point about subjective opinions.
Yea, and now that we’re singing Kumbaya, my eyewitness account statement could also be considered subjective as you rightly pointed out. In some cases, it can obviously be very accurate. I only included it because multiple studies have shown that eyewitness accounts (for which there is only one definition - someone observing an event through their physical senses) similar in nature to those in common criminal cases are inaccurate over 50% of the time in areas of substantial importance to the case. So I should have qualified the statement a lot better and been more specific. Apologies for the derail.
Things I see and hear on a daily basis that are factually incorrect assumptions:
[ul]all black men have enormous “gifts from the lord”
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[ul]guns kill people
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[ul] Tyler Perry is funny
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[ul]people that have a visible handicap are exempt from being called out if they act like an asshole
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[ul]there is a “glass ceiling” for female and minority employees
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[ul]reality tv is actually real
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[ul] if it says it has 250gb, it really has 250gb
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[ul]If I don’t like something, I should be able to bitch until no one likes it
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[ul]Women are protected, they are never to be hit by males, regardless if she is specifically escalating the altercation, however if the female strikes the male it is indeed his own fault
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[ul] A woman can do anything a man can do
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[ul]If a man sleeps around its applauded, but if a woman does shes a whore
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[ul]All men are cheaters, dogs, assholes, _____ insert pejorative here
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[ul] Giving birth is the worst pain you could ever imagine, substantially more so than a traumatic amputation by an IED right?
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[ul] Chivalry is dead
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[ul] You only live once… because you and you alone somehow know exactly what happens when we die, right?
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[ul] There’s no difference between murder and state execution, abortion , etc. etc…
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[ul] Nuclear Power is dangerous, despite the fact it has been on aircraft, ships, submarines, and land without one substantial incident in the US in over 60 years
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[ul] Swearing is just proof of a lack of intellect
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[ul] Having rims on my car that are worth more than my car somehow make me matter in life
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[ul]Violence solves nothing
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[ul]Fat women need love too
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[ul] Marijuana is a gateway drug
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[ul]You didn’t build that
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[ul] The customer is always right
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[ul] Relationships are work
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[ul] READING IS FUN
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[ul] NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW
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[ul] JUSTICE IS BLIND
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[ul] AN EYE FOR AN EYE MAKES THE WHOLE WORLD BLIND
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[ul]YES WE CAN
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[ul] MONEY CANT BUY HAPPINESS
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[ul] PIMPIN AINT EASY
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[ul] IF YOU DON’T GO TO COLLEGE YOU WONT AMOUNT TO SHIT
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[ul]AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
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and most importantly:
WHEN ROMNEY DID THAT… HE MADE… HE MADE ME SICK…
People who don’t love every single thing about America and would not merrily eat the corn out of Uncle Sam’s crap should
MOVE
TO
CANADA!!
:jester:
Win…
• cold drinks cool you off and warm drinks warm you up
• zombies continue to move and ambulate even after being stripped or decaying to the point of losing relevant muscles
• evil black rifles are more dangerous than ‘conventional’ rifles
• supressors silence
• space is the final frontier
That making a copy of a DVD that you own is illegal because of the Warning you have on the DVD.
If you bought it you can make a copy for yourself. I do this with my Disney Movies. Most are in vault.
" all black men have enormous “gifts from the lord”
My Fiance is Black and she gives me props for mine and I am a white guy.
Most hated misconception:
There is some sort of “social contract” that I am a party to which obligates me to submit to government theft of my income which is redistributed to the parasitic class (welfare, section 8 housing, bogus disability, etc.).
My motto: Work or starve.
Did you ever wonder why there are no porn films starring Gary Coleman?
I am sure more will come to the front of my brain later but one misconception stands out while pondering a reply.
That in today’s society if you are fat, stressed, feeling bad, or more or less if you have any kind of affliction or ailment that you or society deems not normal there is a pill to cure it.
How in the world did civilization exist before modern pharmaceutical practices? :rolleyes:
-Jax
So it was illegal to record songs off the radio? How about parents recording school plays on home movies? Was that intellectual theft of the other children participating.
Is it because dead guys don’t do porn?
He did play a midget porn mogul in ‘Midgets vs. Mascots’
I have not mentioned the legality of recording songs off the radio because I’m not a lawyer or up to speed on copyright laws. I’d imagine there are some “fair use” principles that come into play with individuals recording single songs for personal listening. Thus, there are plenty of actions that are legal, but not moral or proper. There are also cases of petty theft (such as kids ripping songs or stealing a piece of candy) that go unprosecuted due to the trivial nature of the offense and the expense of enforcing those laws.
When it comes to school plays, it is not theft if the material is not copyrighted and if the play’s producers (i.e. the school) give the parents permission to record the play. I’d image that the vast majority of actors in a school play are uncompensated, and participate with the understanding that their performance may be recorded. The same goes for school sports events, band performances, and graduation unless the school expressly forbids the recordings.
There are exceptions to this such as the rare instance where a school plans to make its own recordings of an event and sell them - usually for some charitable benefit or to cover the cost of an expensive production. Audience recordings under these circumstances would then cross the lines into theft.
I hope my answers to your questions helped to solve some of the ethical conflicts that have haunted you since childhood. Going forward, it might be best for you to PM me with future examples so that we don’t bog down the thread with minutia.
I guess the point I’m trying to make is “intellectual property” has the same problem as most other “art” when you try and establish ownership.
If I want to play the national anthem to promote something, I suppose I have to get permission from the “intellectual property” owner. But is it really the “intellectual property” of Francis Scott Key given that the music used was stolen from “The Anacreontic Song”?
Do we pay royalties or use fees to the decedents of John Stafford Smith for the Anacreontic Society every time we play the National Anthem? For we did much more than simply record it from the radio.
It is absurd that one can own a word, tune or any other artistic “creation.”
During the London Olympics, the Olympic Cafe had to change their name while the Olympics were there. Exactly HOW did the IOC come to own a word like “Olympic” when it predates the modern IOC by centuries and is now common to almost all cultures. It is as absurd as owning the name Hercules or Zues.
If I paint a copy of the Mona Lisa it is my own original artwork. But if I photograph it or otherwise reproduce it then I have violated ownership rights. And in some cases, even my original work can be considered a violation. If a recognized master paints the moon and the stars, does he now have the rights of “intellectual property” with respect to that image? What if his view is truly unique and specific such as the solar nursery? How is that image any less true “intellectual property” than the Mona Lisa?
The problem is “intellectual property” is not a tangible item and it is hard to regulate ideas and realizations. If I invent a word and it enters common usage, it is mine. I created it, nobody would know it if it were not for me. But I will be owed NOTHING regardless of how many people use it, even if they use it on the radio. But if I sing the word in a song, somehow that gives me a right to ownership that even creating the word does not. So another person could sing my word in their song and end up with “intellectual property” rights that even I do not enjoy. It is even possible that I, as the creator of the word, would no longer be allowed to officially use the word without obtaining rights from the singer of my word.
So we are debating whether the law should provide intellectual property protection or not?
I’ve got an idea, how about doctors post the actual price of their services, rather than waiting till services are rendered to inform the consumer? Even if Wal-mart didn’t have a single price on display, you’d still have the option of walking away without it when it rang up at the register. Try that the next time you go to the doctor. 
For my part, I can’t stand the misconception that a “Zero Tolerance” policy is fair. In what universe is that? :mad:
Affirmative action helps people.
No, I’m pointing out the problems with such ideas at their very foundation. The law is a completely different thing, often irrelevant to the issue. We once had laws that said that rifles which were otherwise identical were illegal if one had bayonet lugs or flash hiders but the other did not.
Surprisingly, it appears that we are. 
Most doctors offices will provide the prices of routine visits and procedures for people who are “self-pay” ahead of those services being rendered. All you have to do is ask. This is not commonly done because most of us participate in healthcare plans that have pre-negotiated pricing with preferred providers. An imperfect analogy would be: I can buy a Glock 22 from Grant for about $500 delivered, but the FBI gets their pistols at an even bigger cost savings for buying in bulk (granted, they are not going through a distributor).
It gets murky when you are talking about in-patient services since you have to factor in hospital fees, provider fees, heterogeneity of care for similar services, etc. In addition, emergency services cannot be handled in the manner which you describe because EMTALA prevents hospitals from delaying a medical screening exam to negotiate payment or even collect payment information. In fact, hospitals can be fined under EMTALA for publishing prices that might be designed to discourage the uninsured from seeking a medical screening exam. For example, a hospital publishing a price list in the ER waiting room that lists: "Evaluation for chest pain = $2000 would be a clear cut EMTALA violation if poor patients were then leaving without being seen because they knew they could not afford the $2K.
Finally, I have no problem taking care of the truly poor who have a legitimate emergency. Nothing makes me feel better to help someone who is destitute due to no real fault of their own (think Down’s Syndrome, ALS, paralysis, etc.) who comes to the emergency department with a problem that cannot reasonably be handled in another setting such as a free clinic. These people are not stealing from me, and I give my services freely and without regret. Sadly, this situation represents less than 5% of the “patients” who skip on their bill.
Here is a great article that was written by an ER doc named Edwin Leap. He illustrates this problem in a very funny way: http://edwinleap.com/blog/?p=2209
How about the mis-conception that my mother in law is really sweet and kind and not an uber, evil, diabolical, bitch.