Is the colt trigger assembly good to keep around? I will be picking up my M4 dpms soon and was curious if it can be used if needed.
Are you just wondering if you should keep it as a spare?
If so, then, why not? I keep mine around, sometimes I pop my SSA out and run a stock trigger for awhile just to keep from being totally spoiled worthless on Geissele’s stuff…
Hell, I’d put it in that rifle ASAP…along with any other Colt parts you happen to have.
I’m new to the ar. I’ve wanted one for years and finally able to get one. I didn’t know if the colt trigger assembly is better than the dpms. I’m buying my m4 used so I’m not sure what has been done to it.
Buy a Geisselle SSA !!!
I put the m4 in lay a way before the price spike. Before I even knew about the price increase. So I got it fairly cheap and have it almost payed off. Kinda on a budget so anything over a grand is out of range right now.
Have this cast in bronze, put it on velvet with a museum light…
The SSA trigger is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
It makes hitting with the AR package so much easier.
And, unhappily, you end up not shooting any ARs you have that don’t have an SSA.
Moon
Where can I check out an ssa trigger?
Until I get my gun home and taken apart, I have no idea what has been done to it internally. If stuff needs to be changed out to make it a rock solid gun that I can enjoy for years and take what I throw at it , I will do what I can when I can. I know it has a nice bull barrel on it and collapsible stock if that matters…lol
I would trust the Colt parts before I’d trust the DPMS parts. And I agree the SSA is a sweet trigger.
Some shops or dealers have a test rig, or a gun set up with an SSA; I’ve encountered this at gunshows.
The SSA is a two stage trigger; total breakweight is 4.5 lbs, with 2.5 in the first and 2 in the second.
Final letoff is described as like ‘breaking a crisp carrot’.
If you can find one at $170, that is a good price. They aren’t hard to install.
Moon
I will see what I can find at the next gun show. Maybe I can get a deal on one. I would like a two stage trigger rather than one long pull than bang.
I wouldn’t expect to find one for less than $170. I found one at that price at a local show, and that is the discount price from Brownells.
Telling you something you already know, the OEM trigger on ARs is reliable and durable; it is also heavy, gritty and difficult to shoot well.
Moon
I will keep that in mind. Anything that makes shoot better I like.
Huh? Colt? Many experts disagree with you.
SSDsurf:
And they are quite welcome to disagree.
All I can tell you for sure is that I can shoot an SSA a damn sight better than the gritty, crunchy, heavy OEM trigger.
The SSA works for me. Others may do as they choose.
Moon
Brother, I’ve shot and own rifles with GI triggers from Colt, LMT, and Daniel Defense. I also own a couple of SSA’s, an SSA-E, a S3G, and a ALS QMS.
There is NO reason for you to buy a fancy trigger right now. Especially since you have a Colt trigger you can put in if problems arise.
Frankly, since you’re new to the platform, I don’t think you should install it either(read a lot first and watch SSD Surf’s videos.) Shoot your DPMS for a while, learn it, take a class, and do some reading here(talking about the stickies in the General AR and Technical AR forums.). You’ll learn what to upgrade(and there are some things on your gun that should be upgraded), what you can do yourself and what you need a professional for, and WHY without spending loads of money.
Another good thing you ought to consider is subscribing to Panteao Productions, amongst many others teaching you how to shoot they have a great video on being your own Armorer.
I’ve been doing a lot of reading. I will for sure go out and shoot it first. Get used to it and tearing it down for cleaning. I may even be happy with it the way it is. I don’t know.
Not sure why a ‘Colt trigger’ signifies to any degree. Much as I like the prancing pony, their triggers are neither better nor worse than any other GI spec trigger.
I learned to shoot an AR forty years ago, and I shot it pretty well.
But I gotta tell you, a good trigger makes a huge difference in any gun, and the AR especially.
Why fight the OEM trigger when there are good options available?
I won’t dispute learning the platform before making some other decisions (optics, etc.), but in terms of enhancing ‘shootability’, a decent trigger is hard to beat.
Moon
I have to agree with you on this. I have done some bench rest shooting and trigger is everything there. Well, maybe not everything, but it accounts for a lot. One thing that shocked me on the AR platform when I finally got into it was how shitty the standard triggers are. Even in the top name guns. In most cases a shitty trigger is a deal breaker for me, but I learned to accept it and tolerate it while I was learning the platform. I recently “discovered” the beauty of Geissele. Don’t think I’ll go back to standard fcg anytime soon.
… AND Bob gave me a free hat too!!!