a friend linked me to this. do your own research. it has possibilities as long as you realize what you may receive.
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=161&
ps…hopefully this is right area for this type of post.
Sounds like a good buy for that price. Especially for someone who is on a budget but just wants to get familiar with the AR platform. ARs are addictive and so if this deal encourages new shooters to pick up an AR, than that is a good thing. If the rifles don’t perform well, they can always come to this site and learn how to upgrade or buy a better rifle. Oh, and how about buying one for a kid who won’t be using it for anything other than a range gun?
I’ve seen several of these now. They are a hodge-podge of parts, with a heavy lean toward DPMS components. Assembly quality varies. Those I’ve seen have been used as sport/hobby guns or dress-up. They are an outstanding value in that use.
With pre-emptive inspection and service by a knowledgeable and experienced armorer, they can be rendered serviceable in other uses for those on a tight budget. At the current price point, adding a known-good LPK and bolt still maintain savings while helping mitigate issues. Staking, gauging, and reaming help with others.
Certainly not a first choice, but not unthinkable either.
Best darn deal I’ve seen lately is “customer appreciation” at Ranier for standard DD at $999 with a $250 DD gift cert. Spend the balance on an Omega, back-up LPKs, etc. Can’t imagine they’ll last.
Bases on personal experience, I agree that anyone buying CMMG needs to know what they’re getting into.
Seems like a big roll of the dice. Brand new DPMS are selling for close to that around here.
Or sell the Omega on the EE and you will have a Tier 1 M4 for roughly $100 more than some hogde-podge scratch and dent gun.
Sorry, I meant USE the $250 on cool DD stuff. You’re still into it for a grand. But you’re right, you could pawn off the stuff you get…
I read not too long ago Grant had an ADS for sale. There’s another good bargain.
What issues have you seen with CMMG that are any worse than other AR manufacturers?
Sounds like quite a deal for a rifle that won’t see much action this is about perfect for what I want a cheap spare AR-15 for my girl as she is looking at upgrading from the S&W M&P 15-22 . I will be picking one up out the door plus FFL transfer fee $636.00 can’t beat that
I haven’t seen the Rainier deal. Could you show me where it is?
If you’re on their mailing list, they sent out a customer appreciation special email. Call them up and ask them about it.
Delivery of wrong items, not functioning items, on and on. Coupled with wait time like RRA.
It’s not so much that it’s a CMMG (which have had documented consistency issues), but that the bargain bin guns are random collections of parts assembled into rifles. There seem to be quite a few happy customers, though they tend to be low-volume reports. There are probably a few that have had a bunch of bullets through them with no problem.
Then again, there are some certain issues that arise when assembling random collections of lower quality parts, such as seen in a recent thread HERE.
I personally would not buy one unless I had the opportunity to look it over and personally perform a part check and function test, as well as having the tools and interest necessary to fix any issues that arise.
Maybe that $600 carbine will last the rest of your shooting life, maybe it will require $400 worth of parts repair/replacement (a number easily reached considering the price of a quality barrel and bolt carrier group). Some people don’t care about having a commercial receiver extension and won’t ever change the stock anyway. Plenty of users are happy with a 1/9 barrel since they will only shoot 55gr Wolf out of it 4 times a year. There is a definite application for a cheap plinker. Others might simply decide that it’s worth the $400 to get a rifle with a higher pedigree and lower probability of issues if they want it for more serious use.
Here are some pics of a recent bargain bin gun:
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/630601935/m/115104051
FWIW, mine looked just as good as the ones in the thread linked above, but my first range outing resulted in slam-fires of 2 or 3 round bursts. its at the gunsmith now.
Buy cheap buy twice.
That thread is completely devoid of useful information.
Other than confirming that the BB gun is indeed an M4-type.
This would be a good alternative for cheap:
http://www.dsarms.com/DSA-ZM4-Forged-7075T6-A3-AR15-Upper-Receiver---DSZM4CBU/productinfo/DSZM4CBU/
Add BCG and HG for $160, LMT lower for $330, and you’re in for under 8 bills.
I’d agree, and while I’m not in the market for another rifle, the 1/9 barrel would have made it a deal killer for me (I like Prvi 75 grain)
I just think that too many view the likes of CMMG, Yankee Hill, DPMS, etc as “2nd (or 3rd) Tier” because they’re not a “Gucci” brand without giving them a fair shake. I have a 16" CMMG midlength barrel that’s been very good, their 22LR conversion kit works, and their 22LR upper works. OMMV.
I went with this option for a KISS M4gery…
It seemed like a great deal and had all the basic things I was looking for in an upper aside from the 1/9 twist(although better for stabilizing .22lr which I do intend to run)… They are nitrided which I am anxious to try out… 288.00 to my door…
Upgraded 5.56 bolt from TimW(68forums) and an enhanced carrier of some sort.
For the lower… DSA also has a special on thier ZM4 lower @ 90.00… get a lpk, stock, bufffer and sss spring and were good for well under 8 bills… Just as it was mentioned above…
Although not my first choice when I entered the AR world(custom 6.8x43)… I am now finding the need for something more basic as a training tool… no bells and whistles and no erroneous accoutrements yet built to abse…