Civitas Media Considering Compliling National List of Permit to Carry Holders

Here is a link to the newspapers this "vast conglomerate’ publishes:

http://civitasmedia.com/section/ournewspapers

I have never heard of a single one of these papers, and have never read one either.

It also looks like they have decided this was a bad plan, and have stated it was all a “poorly-worded internal memo”.

http://civitasmedia.com/article/20140124/HOME02/140129999

Curious if this was a “Come to Jesus” moment, or they really did just screw up. Hanlon’s Razor, and all that.

I often wonder

Then watch old WWII videos of people jumping out of a truck and running up to a hole filled with bodies knowing what’s coming and never seen any reels of them fighting back ?

Not having much faith we will see push back

Resistance is Futile…

I’d be down for that assignment.

DPS offers CHL for Judges and DA at no charge considering their huh work hazards.

My local main Nashville Newspaper (The Tennessean) published a list of all CCW holders back in the 1990’s including name and address (including mine). I wrote a scathing Letter to the Editor (which they published). Gonna have to find it, but the last sentence was something to the effect of “at least it will cause the criminals to wonder if we are as vunerable as we appear…”

With any luck they will do it. Then, STAND BY for the class action lawsuit and the AG of pro-gun states like TX hauling them into court. Civitas has deep pockets and lawyers will be lining up to get a piece of that cheese.

Grass Roots North Carolina, our outstanding 2nd Amendment rights group here in NC, sent the following email:

Concerned GRNC supporters have been contacting us over reports that Civitas Media is assembling lists of citizens with carry permits from all 50 states. Note Civitas Media has no relationship to the libertarian organization, Civitas Institute.

According to Civitas Media’s website, this idea has been scrapped. It would have been impossible to have included NC gun owners on such a list due to privatization of this information following successful passage of GRNC-backed HB937. Despite protection of North Carolinans, GRNC will not tolerate these types of attacks on any group of citizens.

In order to put Civitas Media on notice, GRNC President Paul Valone contacted Michael Bush, President & CEO of Civitas Media, and reminded him of WRAL reporter Mark Binker’s unpleasant experience following his unwise publication of NC gun owner information. Mr. Valone’s letter is copied below:

Dear Mr. Bush:

I cannot tell you how delighted I was to discover that Civitas Media recently established offices in Davidson, just a stone’s throw from my Cornelius home. In yet another twist of coincidence, I too considered attending Hobart College. (I ended up picking Hamilton instead.) Please let me welcome Civitas to North Carolina.

I was equally delighted to discover this statement on your corporate website:

“Civitas Media never had any plans or intentions of publishing in print or online lists of holders of ‘conceal and carry’ permits. Nor will Civitas Media develop databases of permit holders. A poorly crafted internal memo meant to highlight editorial discussions and planning incorrectly indicated that such a database was being planned; it has been considered and rejected.”

As you may know, Grass Roots North Carolina (GRNC) is our state’s primary gun rights organization. We were largely responsible for passing our concealed handgun law in 1995, and for a number of expansions of the law in the years since. At present, there are approximately 324,000 active concealed handgun permit-holders in North Carolina. Our organization routinely issues email alerts to 87,000 gun owners on matters of relevance to the Second Amendment.

As you might anticipate, GRNC cannot stand idly by while gun owners’ privacy is compromised. In 2012, when WRAL-TV created a searchable database of permit-holders, including their partial addresses, we were forced to respond by releasing equivalent personal information about the reporter who did the piece, Mark Binker, his family, and others at WRAL to approximately 60,000 gun rights supporters (our membership was smaller then).

At the time, I noted that in the era of the Internet, we all live in glass houses, making it a poor idea to start throwing stones. Here are some links describing the event:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/wral-pressured-by-gun-rights-group-after-report-on-concealed-weapons-permits_b55628

GRNC vs WRAL-TV5 – SilenceDogood2010's Blog

http://bit.ly/1gc9FhU

As depicted in the last link, many in the media seemed shocked that we would respond in kind. Gun owners, however, are highly protective of their privacy. For example, I understand that after the editor of a small newspaper near the town of Murphy made a FOIA request for local pistol purchase permit information, he not only apologized profusely to readers but actually felt compelled to move out of state. (We played no role in that.)

Although we have talented volunteers at GRNC who have already gathered significant information on James M. Lawitz and others at Civitas Media, it is my hope that we can all live together in harmony. If I can answer questions or be of help in any way, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Armatissimi e liberissimi,

F. Paul Valone

President, Grass Roots North Carolina

Executive Director, Rights Watch International

Copyright Info

© 2014 Grass Roots North Carolina. All rights reserved. Reproduction and distribution is permitted provided full attribution is given and the item is reprinted in its entirety. Address questions to: President@GRNC.org

Outstanding.

And the point about “glass houses” is spot on. Infosys and other information retailers will sell you a shocking amount of “private” data for as little as $20 per search. I once knew a girl that did this sort of work. She was fond of saying she could find anything about anybody in about 20 minutes.

Don’t dox lest ye be doxed.

Apparently they have changed their mind…

http://www.civitasmedia.com/article/20140124/HOME02/140129999

Weak…

They disabled comments.

You know, we should take a cue from the 60’s radicals. Every time some Pig (Establishment Liberal) spouts off at da mouf he should get doxed Anonymous style.

Yeah, I missed the post from GRNC… if they don’t get the ‘glass house’ comment I guess they are fair game.

Sounds like maybe somebody let the cat out of the bag. We had an internal memo that we were going to do something but we were never really going to do anything…


Ottney named Content Manager of Portsmouth Daily Times

6 days ago | | | |

Veteran reporter Ryan Ottney has been promoted to the position of content manager at the Portsmouth (Ohio) Daily Times, effective immediately.
The announcement was made Wednesday, Jan. 15, by Jim Lawitz, director of content for Civitas Media, the Daily Times’ parent company.

I wonder if the content manager is the guy that keeps the inside stuff hidden from public view?

Yes. Exactly why I put that in post 21 at the top of this page.

Sometimes I’m curious if folks actually read threads, or just add comments at the end.

Reading more than the first post takes too much time.

No, resistance is voltage divided by current.

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