Charles Daly D-M4LE (2000+ rounds)

I think most people are pretty familiar on this board with the new Charles Daly D-M4LE. Its the AR15 variant that strives to mirror 6920 specs, but at a price more people can afford. My initial thoughts were that it was a lofty goal, but one that would probably fall short.

For years the AR15 community has heard about Brand “X” is just as good as Colt, or that Brand “X” is better than Colt. There is lots of talk, but in the end, its usually based off one person who shoots infrequently, and is unfamiliar with what makes up the differences between the various AR15s. Without getting into brand wars, or brand bashing, there isn’t much question that Colt is a pretty solid bench mark when it comes to the AR15.

The basic stats for the Charles Daly D-M4LE are listed below for those who haven’t seen them yet.

Chrome lined 4150 barrel with M-203 mounting groove

M4 Feedramps

Forged “F” front sight base with bayonet lug & rubber coated sling swivel

Milspec diameter receiver extension with “H” buffer

T-Marked Flattop upper

6-position telestock

A2 “Birdcage” flash hider

Oval Double Heat-Shield M4 forend

Additional items of note are that the barrels and bolts are proof fired and MPI tested on a random basis. The BCG is well staked, as is the castle nut, and the extractor uses a black insert, stout spring, and o-ring.

Starting out with the D-M4LE, I gave it a quick wipe down, then lubed it with Breakfree CLP. In initial firing I used the aluminum USGI 30 round magazine (with Magpul follower) that came with the weapon. With the first round fired, I thought the trigger was a tad stiff on release, but it loosened up quickly, and caused no issues or concerns. The next 400 rounds were fired without cleaning. There were no issues of any kind. The weapon fed, fired, extracted, and ejected without problems of any kind. I had thought that perhaps there would be some initial break in reliability issues, but that proved not to be the case.

At the 400 round mark, I pulled the BCG looking for any abnormal wear, and there was none. I also checked the FCG, and found nothing out of the ordinary there either. I relubed the BCG with CLP, and reassembled the weapon. 400 rounds had been fired, and no malfunctions of any kind had been noted.

The next 600 rounds were fired primarily through Magpul 20 round Pmags, with some 30 round PMAGs, and other magazines thrown in to verify that it fed from everything. There were no malfunctions of any kind within this 600 session.

Its probably worth noting that the above 1,000 rounds was carried out in one day, with much of it being rapid fire drills. The weapon was extremely hot, and was left to cool down on more than one occasion so it could be handled easier in a cooler state. The initial 400 was done by me, as was the cleaning and inspection of the weapon. The next 600 was partially by me, and partially by others. The total of 1,000 rounds is a conservative estimate, and its probable that the total for that day was closer to 1,200, however, I can verify without question the 1,000 round mark.

The next day started with a now detail cleaned D-M4LE, and another 540 rounds were fired, much of it again working close in drills with extended strings. No malfunctions of any kind were found. This day was again completed using mostly 20 round PMAGs.

The following day, another 580 rounds were run through it, and while it had not been cleaned from the previous days shooting, I did relube it with CLP. This was again done with PMAGs, but mainly 30 round PMAGs as I had left most of the 20 rounders in another vehicle. No malfunctions of any kind were noted.

The week continued with a last day of using the Charles Daly lower on another upper. Nothing against the D-M4LE, we were simply doing some work that required use of another upper.

In the end, we concluded being rather surprised that we went the entire time without any malfunctions of any sort. It was odd enough that I double checked with everyone at least once to verify I had all the correct information. I understand that some people will feel that 2k through a single weapon is not enough to mean anything. However, for people who have been in, or taught courses where brand new weapons are fired, this is enough hard exposure to give an idea how the overall level of quality is with this particular carbine. I’ve seen plenty of new carbines choke on the morning of day 1 in a course, but the D-M4LE isn’t one of them.

In the end, I guess the questions come down to if I would recommend one to a friend, would I own one myself, and would I feel comfortable carrying one for duty. The answer to all of the above is that I would.

Below is a link to the full review of the D-M4LE, including a breakdown with pictures of its various parts.

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410

I have to admit I too was wondering if CD could really pull this off but that is rather impressive performance.

The real test is if CD can prove that this is not a fluke and that this type of performance is a standard thing with their AR’s.

Regardless, I have been very impressed with what I have seen come out of CD Defense.

Well based on your review and grant’s I had a gunshop order a D-M4LE. Hopefully it will be as good as the ones you guys got and I’ll try to give some sort of small report on it.

Thanks for the review. Yeah Im going to try to pick one up soon based on this review and Grant’s.

I participated in the testing as well, which was rather uneventful. The D-M4LE ran like the Energizer Bunny, it kept going and going…
We were not especially kind to this weapon. We kept stuffing mags into it, despite it being smoking hot. This was not a leisurely shoot from a bench. Based on this sample, the D-M4LE appears to be correctly assembled using the correct materials, unlike many of the M4-ish variants we are seeing. I’m looking forward to hearing further feedback from other folks as more of these weapons make it into the market.

Good article and info Stick.

Good article , info, and great pictures. My CD LE M4 should be here by the end of the week and I’ll let you know how it runs and looks.

Nice review and kudos to CD for pulling it off.

Now make a lightweight middy and some NFA platforms! Build us an AK too!

:smiley:

more good news

i’m looking forward to acquiring one of these (or maybe a couple)

Seconded! :wink:

Anybody run a CD upper on on a burst or auto lower yet?

One of the things I really like about this offering is that it comes from a pretty common name. This means that most local shops should either have accounts with CD, or with distributors that do, making it easier to get them into people’s hands and easier to recommend to new buyers that may be reluctant to purchase via the internet.

All of this, of course, depends on what the actual street pricing winds up looking like.

The LW middy is in the works, NFA after July 1st, but sorry, no AK!

Are you also going to be offering complete upper assemblies?

We have started offering complete uppers but we haven’t built any yet as we are still building our initial runs of complete guns. We probably won’t have uppers for sale for at least another 30-45 days.

See: Charles Daly Defense Uppers

You’d think so, but I called far and wide over the Tampa Bay area today to see who had the LE model in stock and I got nada, nil, zip. So I ordered it from Davidson’s and confirmed that my FFL will have it tomorrow. :smiley: Yeah Im a bit excited.

LE Midlengths (CDDXU-MLLE)?

Coming soon to a gun dealer near you!

3 new lightweight builds
4 new middy builds (3of which will be lightweights)

Actually, soon means about 2 months for the first lightweights and about another month for the middys.

Awesome…I am really liking your product. Keep up the great work.

Stickman,
Great review. But what about “fit and finish?” (No answer required. Note heavy sarcasm regarding my question.)

S/F