CDC and NIH research

Wonder what this will reveal?

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/04/news-funding-gun-research

Approximately 40,000 U.S. deaths—about 109 per day—are caused by firearms each year, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) statistics.

Well the author of the article seem sure to know what causes the deaths.

Every year in the United States there are an estimated:

3,960* fatal unintentional drownings, including boating-related drowning—that is an average of 11 drowning deaths per day.

Drowning is a leading cause of death for children.

In the United States:

More children ages 1–4 die from drowning than any other cause of death except birth defects.
For children ages 1–14, drowning is the second leading cause of unintentional injury death after motor vehicle crashes.1

https://www.cdc.gov/drowning/facts/index.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fhomeandrecreationalsafety%2Fwater-safety%2Fwaterinjuries-factsheet.html

They are about to drop some more scientific facts on us that can’t be doubted.

Obviously they are counting all shooting, probably including legit personal defense shootings and maybe even LE shooting bad guys. I guess including suicides just didn’t get them the big numbers they wanted.

Bottom line is swimming pools and cars are the number 1 and 2 killers of everyone, every year, all the time and it never changes. Pretty soon I imagine cell phone related deaths will probably surpass firearms.

How about 200, 000 + deaths annually by medical errors?

To be honest, like shootings, they are subjective to many factors. Some are accidents, some are very preventable accidents and some may not have been accidents at all.

But just like shootings, you can’t take the whole number and declare it to be a “apple” rather than an “orange.” But obviously it’s a number to keep in mind when they start playing “skewy statistic” games related to firearms.

Drownings and car accidents will continue to remain number one and two. Even if they pulled phone related “distracted driving” incidents, cars would still remain number two at least for now.

Gonna break out some of that new math and set the record straight.

Ban motor vehicles or STFU.

Better be careful on that one lest the exemption for certain socio/economic/political/occupational classes game gets played.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/07/14/hell-no-fauci-says-kids-as-young-as-3-years-old-should-wear-masks-n1461720

Well, there is always this…
Biden’s medical advisor, Dr. Anthony Fauci, appeared on MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday and said there was “no doubt” kids as young as three years old should be wearing masks.
Mitchell, to her credit, noted that children do not generally get sick from COVID but asked Fauci what the spread of the Delta variant means for kids under 12 who aren’t eligible to get vaccinated.

“Unvaccinated children of a certain age greater than two years old should be wearing masks,” Fauci said. “No doubt about that.”

“That’s the way to protect them from getting infected, because if they do,” he continued, “they can then spread the infection to someone else.”

Yup. All deaths caused by a firearm. Murder, suicide, LE, self defense, accident,…

If you tripped on a gun and hit your head on the table, doesn’t count.
If tripped over the rug and hit your head on a gun, who knows.

The stats are basically gonna show what they always show. Roughly 60% suicide, 35% homicide, with less than 5% being accidents, LE, other.

Now here is what they won’t talk about. Of let’s call it 14000 murders, slightly more than 50% of the victims will be black, slighty less than 50% will be black males. So 6.5% of the population make half of the murder victims. It’s pretty common knowledge that most murder (and most crime) is committed by members of the same race as the victim. So while not exactly provable (but borne out in other stats) it would be reasonable to speculate that roughly half of all murderers are black males.

Now we know for a fact that the majority of black males are good folks. This means that the small number of “bad guy” black males are disproportionately violent in the extreme. AKA “Superpredators”, as I believe some democratic senators once referred to them. Again this can be borne out by the facts on the ground. Of the ridiculously high murder numbers coming out of Chicago, the vast majority are in 3 neighborhoods. Neighborhoods that are nearly universally black, and heavily infested with gang activity. Oddly enough the conviction rates for murders in those three neighborhoods are unbelievably low. The “clearance rate” in those three areas is largely due to the suspect being murdered by others.

Another thing they won’t mention is that you are more likely to accidentally strangle yourself in your own bedsheets (7-800/yr) than to be murdered with a long gun (6-700/yr), to include “assault weapons”.

It will reveal the NIH and CDC are only interested in study findings that support an anti gun agenda. That page says “In 1993, Arthur Kellermann, MD, then at the University of Tennessee, and colleagues published a highly publicized paper that found keeping a gun in the home was strongly associated with an increased risk of homicide by an intimate acquaintance or family member (The New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 329, No. 15, 1993).” That study was totally debunked as garbage, and why the NRA et al went after them. No way that POS would pass peer review if it was not concluding guns = bad. If the NIH and CDC demonstrated the goal was balanced accurate data that could be put to good use for all concerned, they would not have been hammered in the way they were at that time. Most researchers in the field are from the public health sphere, and they are starting from a guns = bad POV, then look for the data to support that POV, unlike some criminologists and even economists, who tend to look for a net effect of guns: legal uses vs illegal uses = net effects, and all that.

So when this study is complete will health care personnel be free to publicly disagree without threats to their careers from the hierarchy?

What has to come out is the raw data. The anti’s LOVE to look at stats at State level. Never by city or zip. Denver recently reported that some huge amount shootings happen in like 14 intersections, not neighborhood, intersections. That is the level of scrutiny that is really needed.

Absolutely. As long as they do not spread information contrary to what the NIH and CDC deem the truth.

Andy

I suspect anyone within the CDC or NIH who says anything but “guns bad” regardless of the data, will find their career options there short lived. Those orgs, like all other huge orgs full of humans, have a culture.

No doubt. Not only will guns be bad, but guns will also be racist for their unfair targeting of minorities. Science will blame the presence of an inanimate object for the crimes of men. Argument against that accepted science will not be tolerated!

It’s not science blaming anything, it’s those using data to get an answer that supports and agenda. The good thing about science is, it can and is contested by either exposing the poorly generated data and or, generating more accurate/robust data. The only way to counter crap science is with better science. That often takes a lot longer that it should, which has nadda to do with the science, but the humans denying it due to culture, cognitive dissonance, etc. Science is not the problem, it’s never the problem. Humans are the problem.

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Have the NIH, CDC and for that matter the WHO been politicized?
I’m thinking when draining the swamp, we let a lot of swampy swamp critters get away. These radicals are dug in as deep as ticks.
Trust No Man.