CC Clothing Advice Sought

I’d like to ask for recommendations for concealed carry for a guy whose pants and shirt don’t always cooperate.

I squat down and get back up and the shirt tails come untucked. My pants don’t always stay where they ought to and I have to hike them up. If I hitch up the belt to keep the pants up and shirt tail in, I still have to get things re-situated and comfortable. How to CCW holders overcome this difficulty and not get everything all out of whack and start showing things that ought not be shown?

I used to open carry all the time but have not CC’d. I’m 6’2" and 240. Somewhat plump around the middle. How important is it to not print? Is it possible to never be made unless you’re a skinny guy with loose clothing?

I’ve had my 1911 for twenty years but now have a G23 for CC. I haven’t gone through the classes yet, but will this spring. These are questions for which I have found few answers and are what concern me the most.

Thanks to all of you for your advice. At my age it’s not always easy to be the new guy again.

Get a good gun belt for starters…Ares, Jones Tactical, Volund Gearworks, Wilderness come to mind. Also Galco etc.

I just want to let you know that printing a little bit isn’t the end of the world. I know it seems like it, but no one is paying attention to you much less what’s going on around them, they’re on Facebook or Twitter.

That said, get a better belt and some longer shirts, consider a cover garment like a sweater, fleece, jacket or vest.

This.

It’s utterly mind boggling how unaware most (almost all) people are. I’ve even had some girls hug me and put their hand/arm directly on my CCW and not even bat an eye.

However, awareness goes both ways. When carrying always know if there’s people behind you when you have to bend down/over. Or where your shirt tail is for that matter. No sense in making it that obvious.

I haven’t ever been able to tuck & get it to work. I just gave up & looked into other styles of dress that don’t make you look like a slob untucked. Sweaters, untucked button down shirts, polo’s, etc.

Like others said, BELT! BELT! BELT! This can’t be overstated. I use a Wilderness or a nice leather belt from A&G gun leather. Also, a good holster setup that doesn’t “walk” around when you need to adjust helps a lot. .

For any of you taller people (6’2" - 6’5"0, any brands of t-shirts/polos/button downs, you’ve found to be particularly long so as to provide ample cover?

Similar size here (actually a little bigger, with a long torso)…The 5.11 polos in all cotton come plenty long (and I think they may now have “long” versions as well) and, perhaps most importantly, they retain their color, shape and size after multiple washings. The material is also thick enough that it “hangs right” for concealment, which is not true with many other shirts I own. I have a ton of them - almost a uniform for me. Worth checking out - probably available at a local cop supply / custom embroidery shop.

The advice above on getting a quality gun belt is golden - this should be your first step, before focusing on shirts. The second step should be a quality holster, probably IWB, that is comfortable to wear but that positions the butt of the gun at a good spot for your body. It may sound silly, but before you got out, practice bending over in front of a mirror to help you modify your technique and minimize your chances of printing in a store, parking lot, whatever.

All of this, unfortunately, will be specific to you, your pistol, your carriage system, your body shape, etc. There is no universal combination, shortcut or magic formula.

Also, the issue of printing is necessarily connected to where you are. When I’m at home, where firearms are common, concealed carry licensing is shall-issue and open carry is 100% legal (and often seen), printing is all but a non-issue. I still try to avoid it, but it’s not a death sentence if it happens. However, in another state where I have a non-resident license that is may-issue and where there is no open carry, I simply cannot afford to get made, so I am 100% fanatical about not printing. I even switch down to a G26 frequently, just to minimize my chances of printing.

A good belt, pants cut well to your body type, and a shirt that is long enough is key. Bodies are unique and not all solutions work for everyone, but there are trends.

I suspect your having a clothing fit issue more than type. If you post some additional details on what you’re wearing more specifically, and what you need, it may help.

Much of the time, these issues source to a measure of concealment/printing anxiety more than anything. However, clothing that you don’t need to fiddle with or adjust help eliminate tells that someone may pick up on. This is especially important if carrying where being detected has greater consequences.

Pending a response from you, OP, here are some recent threads that discuss clothing options and considerations for bigger guys:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=117031
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=102896
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=90200

I wear looser clothing during the winter months than I did when I did not carry a pistol. If you plan on carrying inside the waistband, buy your pants with a waist size 1" or 2" big and buy a good belt.

Thank you all for your replies. I know I’m not the only or last one to need some answers on this, so you’re helping more than me. I appreciate it.

I’m cool with good belts. I have a Saturday/working outside belt. Thick leather and wider than usual. But I don’t think it will be stiff enough due to wrong kind of leather. I’ll have to get a dedicated carry belt, for sure, then branch out into other colors and maker(s).

I understand the need for an outer covering like an untucked button shirt or jacket for the season. I’m kinda partial to the idea of a shoulder holster, and think it would suit me for some portion of the year and certain duties. I work a lot outside in the yard/garden/shop and it would stay out of the way for some things but maybe not for others. I’d have to see how that works out.

Ironman8, I think that female that hugged you probably thought she was touching your phone on your belt. Where I would carry an IWB would be right about where my phone sits now. I’d have to do something with the phone, and the other side carry I intend to have a spare mag or two. It’s a pretty big phone, and I’m always futzing with it to put it back where it belongs…or see that it’s still there. I understand that’s something I can’t be doing with my piece. I’ve seen all the nice looking leather holsters given as examples of what people use to carry, and the kydex rigs make a lot of sense. I’m kind of partial to the Crossbreed Supertuck at this point. I understand I will probably accumulate a number of things to carry, carry in, carry with, and carry in addition to.

I try to be in condition yellow at all times. Though it was only Air Force, I was in for 20 and stationed overseas. We got all the situational awareness briefings, Wingman briefings, etc. Then there was all that stuff I did before I grew up. I still can’t get myself to sit with my back to the doorway. Wife understands, fortunately, and will take whatever chair I hold for her.

Skintop911, those were some very helpful threads to read. Good leads for clothing. I wear 40x34 pants now. Since that size seems very common, I have to buy what I find and not necessarily what I’m looking for. I wear office casual during the day, but won’t be able to carry at work. I believe a common practice is to keep the pistol in the glovebox or console during the day and carry into the house at end-of-day?

My usual daily wear is slacks, collared button shirt, leather shoes, not-white socks. Desk job stuff. I have a few light jacket things that are very casual. I could look into better looking things. Wife would like that. This is what I would wear going out or going out after work for supper when nobody wants to cook. This is what I see myself in mostly when imagining what to carry for. But that probably isn’t what I would be in most of the carry time.

What I change into at home and wear on days off and weekends is either overalls or jeans/shirt. Jeans/shirt sounds like to be the easiest to plan for. I can always think of something concealing with that combo. Overalls has been a little tougher. I knew a guy once who had a pouch sewn into the bib on the inside, but he’s no longer around to ask questions of. Another option was a belly band. Another option was a home made contraption that worked only with Big Smith overalls of a certain style. I love my overalls, and don’t wish to ever give them up. I’ll have to find something for that, for sure.

As for clothing FIT issues, I plead guilty. I’ve gone from young and skinny to old and fat. Then I shrunk ½” in height. Then I got diabetes and lost 50 lbs. Then back up 20 lbs. Now hovering around 240. Still working out and on the way down. Still have some skinny jeans and fat jeans available. Will have to drag it all out and take inventory, then purchase as required.

Try putting your gun next to your junk. In the extremly remote situation you somehow print, it will be awesome.

I like my 5.11 covert shirt very much. Looks good (according to the women who have seen me in it- they think I’m dressing up for them) and it’s cut wide and long. I normally wear a xxl, but it’s an xl and works fine. It’s a touch spendy but not too bad considering.

The sonoran shirts look nice but spendy (about $30ish more than the 5.11) and not in a pattern I really like or I’d probably try one. FWIW one of my bosses likes the anti plumbers butt shirts from Duluth trading company that are cut long in back. I have a few on the way. They’re super cheap tohttp://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/duluth-ingenuity/mens-longtail-t-shirts/mens-longtail-t-shirts.aspx?feature=P11220-C91329-L2o.

Ha! Already got that covered…

If you carry while wearing a sport jacket, be mindful of the wear a handgun can put on a liner. When I worked plain clothes assignments I shredded the lining in a few of my jackets.

Eric, those are a bit pricey. No doubt they work well, though.

A question would be are you using these as an overshirt for t-shirts and some/most/all buttons unbuttoned?

I know it’s all theory now, and could be talked to death. I thank you for your relating your experience. I’ll just have to get out there, carry, and see what works for me. But, knowing where to start can be a problem.

The selections from Duluth Trading are nice. The prices aren’t too bad, and I suspect they would wear well. Now that I know some approximate pricing I see that they are similar to Cabela’s prices. Since we have one nearby it might be good to go back and take a closer look in person. I’m thinking the local farm store would be good place to look for options.

You’ve all been very helpful. I thank you. Any further experiences would be gratefully accepted.

here are some thoughts from my experience carrying concealed. I’m 5’10" and about 210.

First of all on printing: I agree that most people won’t notice, but a few will. Check the laws in your jurisdiction. If the gun must remain concealed in your jurisdiction, then keeping it truly concealed could save you an awful lot of trouble.

You can reduce the printing by being careful about how you move. For example, if you carry in a small of the back position (I don’t recommend it), then bending over forward is something to avoid. In general if you have to pick something up from the ground, try to keep your torso erect and bend your knees instead of bending from the waist.

Some colors, patterns, materials, and fits of clothing conceal the gun better than others. Darker colors conceal better than lighter colors. Patterns, especially bold random patterns, work better than solids. Woven fabrics with body work better than knits. Loose fitting clothes conceal better than tight clothes. I wear Hawaiian shirts much of the time. They are loose, generally in dark colors, with random patterns, and the fabric doesn’t cling.

Different folks will arrive at different optimum solutions for type and location of carry holster. I started out with shoulder holsters in the late 70s with a S&W 6" N-frame. I wore suits a lot back then. In order to avoid printing with a shoulder holster, you’ll need a pretty heavy overgarment. To get to the gun quickly with a shoulder holster, you’ll need an open front garment or you’ll need to train a lot on getting the gun out. Another downside is that with a shoulder holster you’ll have to move the gun laterally across your chest to get it into action. This means if the bad guy has gotten too close (this is what they like to do) you could be in a fight for the gun before being able to use it. I’ve heard some trainers won’t allow shoulder holsters in their classes because of the issue of muzzling others during the drawstroke.

I now carry a Glock 19 in a Raven Concealment Phantom kydex holster configured as an IWB on a Galco 1.75" leather belt at the 3 o’clock position. I wear a cotton t-shirt under the rig to protect my skin. Using a heavy strong belt and a stable rigid holster means that the gun stays put and is pulled tight into my side making it harder for others to notice. Carrying at 3 o’clock allows me to conceal the gun with my right arm. I used to carry at about 4:30 but I didn’t like the fact that if my gun was printing I would never know. It’s also more comfortable for me carrying at 3 than at 4:30.

I know that I went through several types of holsters and locations to carry over a period of years before I settled on what I’m doing now. Don’t be surprised if it takes a while to find the right solution for you. Taking training classes with your carry rig is a good way to find out quickly how well it works for you. Good luck.

Whiskey niner:

I have worn the 5.11 shirt both stand alone and with another shirt underneath it. Usually it’s an underarmour worn tucked in but not always, sometimes just a random t shirt. If thats the case I usually only have the bottom 4 or so buttons done, but my jobs are pretty casual. Yeah, it’s a little spendy, but honestly they are not any more than any other nice/semi nice button down casual shirt I would wear.

It really has been an experimentation process for me as well to figure out what works. I prefer to carry IWB at about 3:30. I’ve had my GF watch me both at home and at work to see if she could tell. The feedback has been good, as in most cases she cannot tell, and if she can she says she wouldn’t notice if she wasn’t trying and even then it’s not 100% what exactly the printing is. If she can see printing or if the clip from the holster or more is exposed I modify what I am wearing or how I move. FWIW those times have only been when I was wearing a random t-shirt and was either bending way over or reaching way above my head. YMMV, good luck.

I’ve gone to that Kydex pull cord trigger guard cover/mini holster and stuff the gun in my frontal/apendix/pee pee area.

I’ve put a belt holster one like once in the last year.

I’m in a somewhat similar situation. 6’5" and 290, and living in Illinois. I can suggest that once you decide on a set-up, based on feedback from the list - go ahead and wear it sans gun for a few weeks. See if it works. I’ve been doing that for about six weeks now, and I don’t even notice the CrossBreed Supertuck. Evenings and weekends I wear my glock 26 around the house and yard, too. Have gotten so comfortable with it that I have to be careful not to go “off property” while wearing:)

Side note - Illinois legislators are trying their damnedest to screw us over - 27 different amendments proposed as to where you will or won’t be able to carry. Once all is said and done - yes, we will technically be a carry state, but not in actuality:(

john

Mark that sounds interesting. Do you have a link for exactly what you are talking about?