The sight work was done by www.amerigunusa.com. I shipped them the slide.
The installation of the single white outlined tritium dot was around $82.50 and the return shipping was $17.50–if I remember correctly.
This is the hardware forum and we HAVE been talking about reliability, accuracy, design and aftermarket support. Or a lack thereof. I think its taken for granted at this point, that the person behind the trigger is the most important feature. That stuff is discussed in the training forums. No?
No one has stated anything in the way of technical information in this thread.
No round counts other than the OP’s “more than 1 thousand rounds have been run through the pistol!”, no targets, comparative analysis of drills being run between the G19 or the Caracal.
Just a bunch of “i like my caracal!” posts which are fine and all but this forum is about “hardware” and data right?
I mean shit, i have a badass dewalt drill that rocks some serious face. It screws and drills pretty darned well, kind of like a power drill…
You may have to find those answers yourself Magz, if your so inclined. Not enough or no Caracals in the hands of the more serious shooters to provide such data. Although Rob Pincus has put 9000 rds thru a Caracal F. He and some of his associates are giving similar feedback about the pistol, to what is being related in this thread. Basically that its reliable, accurate and has good shooting characteristics, comparable or better than the other popular striker fired pistols on the market. Just the basics so far.
Thank you. That’s less that I was thinking it would be.
The basics are a bunch of words…
We are supposed to be looking beyond these words on forums such as these.
Granted, a thread like this IS a starting point like you mentioned but very few threads ACTUALLY evolve into something centered around statistics.
I have put many rounds through several Caracals and they have not been flawless. During extended practice sessions, or in last stages of a match, we generally see/experience FTE problems. A cursory cleaning typically takes care of the problem temporarily. I have seen this problem in both the F and C models.
Again, the kinds of shooters that would provide statistics aren’t playing with Caracals. Or they would have participated in this thread by now.
Also, the Caracal is relatively new to the US market and not out there in large numbers.
I’ve seen over 1500 rounds through each of the two test Caracals–one full sized and one compact–with hardly any issues. At about the 800 round mark the full sized Caracal failed to extract a case, and did so again about a hundred rounds later. I wasn’t sure if this was a fluke, so I cleaned and lubricated it, and the gun functioned flawlessly for the remainder of the test.
The subcompact Caracal experienced a single failure to feed with a hollowpoint at about the 1200 round mark, where the mouth of a Black Hills 115 grain +P JHP got caught on the bottom of the feed ramp. Since the friend who was shooting it was employing a stance that might have lead to limpwristing, I fired another 200 rounds of the same ammo through the gun using the magazine that gun malfunctioned with and experienced no further issues.
I realize that these are just two datapoints.
Sorry if I missed it but are the stock sights steel or polymer?
The stock sights are steel.
Good info right there. I haven’t shot more than 250 rounds in any one session with either of my Caracals. I always at least wipe the internals down and re-lube after every session.
Its really hard to dog on the Caracal and those that try it when you consider the current problems with the Glock 9mms and the full size M&P9.
Especially when you consider how inexpensive they are.
I have handled a few and really want to shoot one.
-brickboy240
Good point brickboy. I just recently bought another gen 3 but was hesitant to buy a new glock with some of the recent problems. 400 rounds through it and no problems yet but it was still enough to make me think twice about a new glock. If the caracal ends up being reliable and remains affordable it may be a success especially with the majority of the general public gravitating toward guns that cost less. That being said… I will still keep my glocks.
I have 2200 rounds through my full size Caracal 0 malfunctions using brass cased, FMJ ammo from Geco, Ranger +P, PMC, Federal Champion, WWB. Hollow Points have been Rem and Speer 124gr (200 total).
I find the rear sight “tight” and am toying with the idea of having a gunsmith open up the notch 0.010" to let a allow a bit more daylight on either side of the front sight.
I haven’t benched it at 25y. With my meager skills I can manage 4" 10 shot groups at that distance. I shoot the same with a PPQ, and a little better with my 1911.
I haven’t a trigger pull scale, though side by side with my buddy’s PPQ the Caracal trigger stroke is shorter and a bit heavier. From reset, the PPQ pull is shorter. Note: these are two different systems Caracal, like the Glock comes to full cock with the trigger pull. The PPQ is fully cocked and has what I consider to be a two-stage trigger.
As to aftermarket support, RKBA made me a nice Kydex holster, great guy! I haven’t required anything else (yet).
I 'll be buying another next week.
YMMV
I wont buy another until they have them with night sight options. Im hoping “2nd Gen” Caracal’s will have a standard sight setup.