I’ve been seeing a few photos of rebels carrying captured Iraqi Army AR’s and I was wondering how long they may last in primitive conditions without support. Will we be seeing them 10 or 20 years from now, in the news, all beat to hell? Photos of severely abused M1’s and M14’s from the past, in various hell holes, come to mind. Most of those look like they are missing parts like sights and some even look inoperable.
They will be around a long time, unfortunately.
Those pos’s learn how to really shoot those m4 out m16’s they took, god I’d hate too be on the other end. Anyone who’s ever ran an ak or sks knows they generally don’t carry accuracy like an ar does.
Once they figure out to just dump oil in them they will keep them running. Can’t remember where it was but saw a photo of some bad guy group in Asia that had nam era rifles, still in use today.
It’s not the sand box, but that’s al long time no less.
I feel that ar reliability issues are over blown. Most people aren’t pounding out 1500 rounds a day like a class setting.
Off topic, butI hope things get toned down over there soon. This situation has so much potential to get totally out of hand so fast for everyone.
Unfortunately they will last long enough to do their job. Ammo and mags will be limited and will be a supply issue.
Here’s some pictures I shared with Colt, about 6 years back. They’re Iranian made, NORINCO tooled AR with “Golt” marked suppressor. Colt was totally unaware of it at the time.
That just strikes as amusing as in LOL! Did they follow the TDP?
On this one in particular, was the rear takedown pin pulled creating that gap or was it just that loose?
Believe it or not, alot of these jihadists are real warriors. When I was in Afghanistan their AKs where always very clean, and I frequently observed them cleaning their rifles first thing after they woke up in the morning. Not a rag tag group of retards like most people imagine. After years of conflict Darwin’s laws of combat have only left the good insurgents alive.
Was this before or after they raped some poor goat or child?
However “good” these goat-****ers are, he only reason there are any left is because we are fighting this war with one hand behind our back and blindfolded.
If we cut the politically correct nonsense and just had at it, like we did with the Japanese and Germans, we would have finished this dog and pony show by now.
But I digress…
Don’t forget that the Chinese make lots of ARs, mags and 5.56 ammo, so actually I don’t foresee too many supply issues.
that is crazy. on the surface that looks like a semi decent knock off.
what is NORINCO?
The suppressor is what I like.
Golt, made in USA by Persian machine and tool…lol.
There is Chinese 556?
I remember seeing pics from Nicaragua or El Salvador a while back. Someone had an early M16 that had the front of the mag well completely eaten through, due to wear or corrosion from the shooter(s) putting their hands there, I guess. Someone had fashioned a complete set of wood furniture for it. I’ll try to find a pic on the innernetz if I can.
China North Industries Corporation. They are responsible for a variety of reproduction weapons. Their military repro’s haven’t been legally imported into the US since '93 and all their products have been blocked from importation since '03.
As to regards to the fighting effectiveness of different insurgents I have seen.
depends bro, Iranian Quds forced trained Shi militias and Bathist led sunni fighters are of course going to be more professional and proficient at fighting. I have seen some straight up retarded Haj in assholistan but I also seen some squared away Taliban as well. Just like I have seen some very stupid big army units that couldn’t fight their way out of a toilet if they fell in.
Fighting insurgents is different from fighting nation-states.
We won Iraq like we did any other nation-state. Unfortunately, in doing so, we overthrew the dude who prevented this Sunni and Shiite civil war.
Now we have dudes who want to re-establish the caliphate fighting dudes who are waiting for the twelfth imam to reappear with Jesus to save humanity.
Ars are rather simple to manufacture With the cnc machining and any desired quality.
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Shit, I had yellow-box Norinco 5.56mm in the early 90’s (dating myself of course).
The handguards on that ChiCom M4gery actually look ergonomic.
I believe Canada gets some of the ChiCom M4geries imported.
Photos and video from northern Iraq show ISIS fighters demonstrating better weapons discipline (e.g. safeties on, fingers out of trigger wells) and using better load-bearing gear than I’ve seen in the past. They clearly have some training and standards that shouldn’t be underestimated, likely coming from Chechen and other “imported” fighters.
Someone pointed out on LF that there are some other (probably captured) weapons out there aside from U.S.-provided Iraqi M16s and M4s:
Dave
Never underestimate the enemy.
800 retards can’t defeat 30-40k that easily (yes, even if they’re the IA). These guys are motivated, trained, and most are seasoned combat vets from Syria.
I’m sure they captured a shitload of M16A2s and M4s, plus massive amounts of 5.56 and mags to boot. They’ll last a very very long time, consider there’s still M16A1’s in Laos and Cambodia still ticking and the jungle is much worse on weapons than the ME. Also remember all that M855 they just found is non corrosive, unlike most 7.62 out there. So those weapons are here to stay.
Those 1151’s on the other hand… I’m sure they captured them deadlined.
PS- If you think they’re bad now, wait till they figure out how to close ejection ports!