If you got the $$, HK for now. This coming from a Glock fanboi, otherwise Gen 3 G19.
G17 follows your 2 is 1 logic. So that was my vote. If it was me, I don’t like glocks so I’d buy two M&P 9s or if you really want DA/SA the P30. Crap, since I’m spending your money, I’d sell the Glock you have and buy two P30s.
I just bought a S&W SD9VE because I liked the trigger. It reminds me of well tuned revolver. But nobody values my advice anyway.:laugh:
Glock 19. You are already familiar with Glocks and it is a little bit easier to conceal than the Glock 17.
Check out the PPQ. I had a chance to shoot one at the local range. Extremely accurate even the first time you pick it up. Second choice would be Beretta 92 if you want to go metal.
If your G17 really has fading night sights, it’s old enough to have been “born” before Glock started having issues with its 9mm line. Sad to say, but after Glock gave me four (4) bad G19s in a row (one I bought off the shelf, the other three were replacements when the original one went TU), I can’t in good faith recommend them anymore - unless you’re willing to possibly go a LONG time with yours in transit back and forth from Smyrna.
And, before I get labeled a “hater,” I shot nothing but Glocks for years; and got myself labeled as a significant rabble rouser for fighting against our agency’s switch to another Sig instead of transitioning to Glocks.
After giving up on Glock until I hear that all their 9mm woes are solved (which, honestly, I don’t think will happen until we have a “Gen5” pistol designed from the ground up to make the 9mm work), I went over to HK. I know, I know, I suck and they hate me.
Well, first I got a P30, and, let me tell you, it is a simple joy. Accuracy is phenomenal, and the LEM trigger, once you get used to it, is very, very nice. I can run my LEM P30 just as fast at close range as I could ever run my G19s, but at extended ranges (especially past 25 yards), the P30 really leaves the Glock in the dust.
I also picked up a LEM-equipped P2000 as a “smaller” option, and it’s every bit as nice as the P30, less the “customizable” grip. In fact, I’d pay quite a bit of money for a P30 with a grip shortened to P2000 length - I think that would be the cat’s meow.
As always, YMMV, and this is one man’s opinion, worth PRECISELY what you paid for it.
Regards,
Kevin
There aren’t many da/sa options out there. I would suggest looking at the hk p30 or hk p2000 in 9mm or .40. They’re both going to run you about there. HK’s are probably the cream of the crop as far as da/sa fightnig handguns go. If you’re looking more for a budget gun, take a look at the FN fnx series. They come in 9mm, .40 and .45. They are similar to hk’s in the sense that are able to be holster cocked and locked like a 1911. (Unlike sigs and berettas). If you don’t like carrying cocked and locked, you can always decock and carry in da. They are cheaper too. Probably run you around the same as a glock or m&p.
I’d get and plan on getting myself a M&P C.O.R.E. I’d look into the FNH 9’s also.
Notwithstanding the current recall, Caracal F(fullsize) or C (compact (G19 size). Accurate, reliable, and the same sweet trigger pull every shot.
My $0.02
Those are all good guns.
Get whatever you like when you hold it and don’t look back.
slightly used or barely used
Glock 19 from before 2010
Serial numbers starting with F to M seem to be the best years 2000’s up until 2009
This will ensure that you have no brass to the face models of late.
Easy to find on Gunbroker.
Or
Hk P30 LEM
Or
Newer Made Smith M&P 9mm’s
this will ensure no accuracy issues reported here in abundance.
I would highly recommend either of the H&K models listed, and would suggest you also look at the P30.
I voted 26, to supplement your 17
The 26 can use the mags for the 17, and in some cases the same holster.
I sure you got one by now…
As the owner of four G19s I voted PPQ:D
I voted Glock 19. If you can find an older Gen 3 that is lightly used, go for it. If not, with the addition of an Apex Extractor, a Gen 4 G19 should be GTG.
The Smith M&P’s are great guns, and if you buy a newer one, hopefully you can avoid the accuracy issues of the past.
The Walther PPQ looks promising, but it’s only downside is the cost of magazines.
The cost of magazines was a common complaint about Sigs too. Anyway, when they’re available, the Walthers are not hard to find in the mid $40s. Or…the Magnum Research Baby Eagle Fast Action mags at $25-$30. Availability is the big issue for PPQs and accessories right now. Whether that’s demand, or supply constraints in the transition relative to Walther shedding its import relationship with S&W I don’t know. I guess we’ll see as that new import path matures after January.
What’s this blasphemy you speak about the holy combat pistol? From what I hear around here, they are the ultimate in reliability and are the handgun of choice for the baddest of the bad asses. What gives?
I absolutely love my H&K pistols. I recently picked up a P30L V3 with the thumb safety and I just put a P30s LEM/V1 my favorite local spot had on lay-away. My EDC gun is a P2000SK.
That being said, the Glock 19 is always a great choice and I thoroughly enjoyed the ones that I had. I did get to finally hold a 9mm PPQ yesterday and… DAMN. Now I see what all the hype is about. I am eagerly awaiting the release of a long slide version.
You’re already familiar with the 17. Another 17 would be the best bet for you.
I’d get 2 more. You’d have 3 on hand: One for carry, one for training and one for a back up carry should your primary go down.
You would only have to worry about 1 type of magazine, one type of RSA and 1 type of holster etc… It’d make decisions a lot simpler across the board.
That’s all just my opinion of course.
I have always thought the Glocks with grip chop mods were a great idea.
You could look for a cheap Gen 2 17 and cut the grip to fit Glock 19 magazines. Many people on this board do this and it looks/works great. Now you can keep all your holsters and magazines the same.
If you shoot the glock well, and have a good number of magazines for it, I would suggest sticking with the Glock platform in 9mm. the additional cost of a Sig, plus a few magazines, would be a good amount of money. Or…save the money with common magazines that you already own, and use the extra money for ammo/classes. One can never stop learning and improving.