Background: I’m in the final stages of picking out a 10.5" upper (stamp finally came today). Rifle is for <200yards, range fun, home defense, carbine class. Here in MA you can not own suppressors. I have had great luck with my noveske 14.5 and will probably buy another upper from them.
Several years ago, I fired an SBR with a noveske pig on it (I’m not sure if the design has changed much since then). I was shooting outside and I do not remember much different in the noise/concussion, but I wasn’t really paying close attention. Someone told me the other day that pig will reduce report to that of a .22LR for the shooter (obviously overall sound is not reduced).
Question: So, given that the KX3 adds a good deal of weight and length to an SBR, is the sounds/blast reduction worth it, if a suppressor is not an option?
Well as it doesn’t do any actual “noise suppression” (otherwise it would be considered a suppressor along with all the other suppressors that were actually flash hiders) I wouldn’t bother.
If anything, I’d consider moving to another state where you can actually own a suppressor rather than wasting time with things that are “almost” what you want.
Thanks, I understand that it provides zero sound suppression, however some people apparently feel that by redirecting sound, it reduces noise for the shooter or anyone on either side. I'm just not sure if it's worth it for the increased length/weight.
In terms of MA, the rule against suppresors is a drag - however, I have a carry permit, a bunch of preban rifles and mags, so it’s not the end of the world for me. Living right on the ocean and making 6 figures working at a world class hospital isn’t that bad either.
I have a DD 10.3" bbl but it was meant to be a suppressed HD weapon from the start. I don’t think would want it without the suppressor. While I haven’t used the KX3 it might be a good idea to direct some of the blast forward.
ETA: I have a 12.5" that’s fantastic. You might want to give that some consideration.
To me that's pretty good and might be worth it. When I fired an sbr with a KX3 a while ago I remember it being about as loud as a 16" carbine - which would be nice.
I guess another thing to consider would be 10.5 with a pig, versus 12" with an A2. I just got my stamp today and have not ordered an upper yet, so I could get either one. I have fired a 10.5 with an A2 outside and I didn't find it prohibitively loud, but the "blast" was very noticeable.
I have a different perspective I guess. If I worked my ass off to have such a position as yours, I’d be damn livid that my local government would deny me something as simple as a suppressor. Imagine if it was anything else, imagine if they declared V8 engines illegal.
Living in FL we have the beaches, I have a carry permit, preban rifles (no need for preban magazines) and I have something close to two dozen suppressors and I really don’t want to say how many machine guns. I couldn’t imagine living in a non NFA state.
Just to be clear, you can own any other NFA item including MGs , it's just suppressors that are banned. But, ya, it does really suck, especially since this is the cradle of the American revolution :(
Of course, As everyone knows, the guy that signed our AWB is now the republican nominee!
That’s idiotic. I think Mich has some stupid law that allows full autos but NOT select fire NFA weapons. Sounds like it might be time to throw some more tea in the harbor.
In this case I'm going to buy a noveske upper either way - so I don't think it will be an issue (slightly increased dwell time). I think noveske markets it for sound/concussion redirection and increased reliability.
The problem is that the kx3 is so long and heavy that it would be worth it to me if the sound (at the shooter’s ear was significantly reduced)
How about the fact that the guy who signed the current MA AWB is running for president
I’m going to differ with my learned colleague Steyr. I used a KX3 and its predecessor the KFH on my 10.5" guns until I got a 5.56 can, and IMO they are quite worth it on that particular barrel. No, they don’t suppress noise, but they do no-shit redirect it, and an unsuppressed 10.5 is a loud motherfucker. If I could not get a suppressor, I’d go back to the KX3 on anything shorter than 11.5".
It does. To my ear it makes firing a 10.5" sound like firing an A2 at the shooter’s position. Forward of the muzzle it sounds like a fucking artillery simulator.
