So I have never purchased a gun in California before and seeing this is now where I live now, I’m now forced to buy here. I went in to the local shop and was looking to order a M&P9 FDE and was quickly asked if I know if thats legal. I looked at the guy like why would the color make it any less legal. So he made a quick call and came back to tell me it was in fact illegal and black or polished were my only options. Can anyone tell me if this shop is full of shit or speaking the truth? If true, is there a source that can tell me all the restrictions for handguns in California? I did about 20 mins of research and came up short with my answers. Thanks for your time.
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Doncha just love Kalifornia? :bad:
Doncha wish you could get away? :sarcastic:
I’m finally leaving Cali after 8 1/2 years, can’t wait 
I was very surprised when I first got out here to learn that the two firearms I brought with me were not allowed to be sold in stores.
The guys in charge just want to bug the crap out of companies and their customers until the companies don’t want to do business here, and potential customers lose desire to even be part of the gun culture at all. Companies have to pay to get a model on the list and supposedly safety-tested.
Have to pay full price for a neutered version of a pistol, while actual criminal types get the full-capacity models for $250-400 a piece straight from Nevada. It’s a painful thing… :rolleyes:
that database and requisite system is laughable…sadly. I knew kalifornistan was draconian, but dear god.
Make no mistake, it’s not about saving lives or preventing “bad” guns from entering the state; that list is simply in place to be one more barrier to prevent honest citizens from owning guns - and California enjoys extorting money from handgun companies.
I didn’t realize that, in addition to the guns that we Nevadans were supposedly sending to the criminals in Mexico, we were also sending guns to criminals in Kalifornia.
We would appreciate it if you would stop raising gas prices as well.
Yes you are. Didn’t you know you are supplying Mexican drug cartels with all of those full auto AK’s, M4’s and 40mm grenades?
You guy must have some really neat gun stores…
Yeah, no wonder Wally World is always out of stock on these items. :lol::lol::lol:
Droid, don’t you know it’s the same as a red car can go faster?
Yeah it sucks here. I’m a die heart HK fan, half the toys I want are “illegal” and the other half I have to pay near double for.
Anyway, good luck.
Drive-thru weddings and Gun Stores
Im currently in Kalifornistan for a three week Combat Marksmanship Trainer course (ironic, right?) and im losing my fucking mind. I hate this state even more than those stupid “fitted” flat rimmed hats, and that says alot for me.
On top of that:
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[li]Before you buy a handgun you have to take a test to get a “Handgun Safety Certificate.”
[/li][li]You can only buy one handgun every 30 days.
[/li][li]You must perform a “Safe Handling Demonstration” every time you buy a handgun.
[/li][li]A firearm must come with, or you must provide proof that you’ve purchased in the previous 30 days, a state-approved “safety device” (usually a lock of some sort). Alternately you can fill out an affidavit stating that you own a qualifying gun safe, again every time you buy a gun.
[/li][li]There’s a 10-day waiting period for all firearms.
[/li][li]Transfers of any firearm between private citizens must be done through a dealer, and are subject to the 10-day wait. They are not, however, subject to the 1-handgun-every-30-days rule.
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I won’t even get started on the “assault weapon” rules. You need a flowchart to make sense of that mess; see calguns.net for details.
Most of you from Free States are probably shaking your heads in disbelief at this nonsense. Almost all of the above restrictions have been put into place since 2000. The gun-banners in California figured out that outright bans don’t fly, so they’re instituting all these restrictions in the name of “safety.” They’ve made it a huge pain in the ass to buy firearms, which has the desired effect of discouraging people from buying guns. The recent ammo bans are the same thing - there’s no basis in reality for banning this stuff, the goal is to make it difficult to be a gun owner.
I was gonna bring this up. The most recent ammo law (which would’ve required thumbprint and signature for any “pistol ammunition”, whatever that is) was just struck down a month ago. Perhaps the tables are starting to turn? 
All the other rules aside… if you really are dead set on an “off roster” handgun, you can do a “single-shot exemption” via a 07 FFL on just about any handgun out there, rostered or not.
Depending on your location, there are a few 07 FFLs in CA that do this regularly now.
In the SFBA, one option is Valkyrie Arms in Milpitas.
Good luck!
PS Be sure to check the CalGuns resources (esp the wiki) for other info. The forums are good, but they have the usual signal to noise problems that all forums do… 
It’s not illegal, hardly any handguns are in CA (only things like Tec-9s with mags outside the grip are outright illegal). If it didn’t pass the drop test or the dealer didn’t submit it (every color and variation has to go through the test which is absurdly expensive, so not all manufacturers opt to put all their models through) it can’t be imported and sold through FFLs. They are perfectly legal to own though as long as it doesn’t break any other CA laws, so you can transfer one via private party sale. If you can’t find one on calguns classifieds your only chance would be to hope an LEO or out of state friend buys one and suddenly decides he doesn’t like it.
I’m a gunshine state native, there is no way in hell i could ever justify moving to the land of fruits, flakes, and nuts. Hell, I have 7 gun shops within 20 miles. Oh, and my “rightwing extremist” congressman ain’t caucasian and it drives the liberals insane.