I’ll just leave this here…
Is it me or in the second video with the 40 cal…where they shoot is in front of them yet the bullet that actually spins looks like its right next to them?
apparently the bullets bounced off of the ice into a different location.
I’m not entirely convinced that this is real either. That’s why it’s up for discussion.
No doubt about this part, but notice the odd trail leading up to the bullet in the second video? How did it maintain its rotation speed as it even shallowly gouged its way through the ice and snow on the way to that spot?
I’m not saying it’s fake, but I’ve fired hundreds of rounds of almost every caliber into the ice over the years and never seen anything like that happen. Who knows. 
It’s pretty cool to see the bullet spin that’s for sure…In the comments on the vid, they discuss Mythbusters. It would be cool if they actually do test it haha.
Perhaps I’m missing the obvious, but how does a bullet fired into solid ice show zero deformation?
Seems more than a little sketchy to me.
I agree. It would seem to me that
a) the bullet doesn’t deform because it hits a soft medium (slush or snow) and would penetrate. It would eventually hit a hard medium halting it suddenly (go to b) or loose all its energy, coming to a rest (both laterally and rotationally).
b) hit a hard surface which causes it to stop and not penetrate (in which case it would deform).
I can’t imagine ANY scenario where the bullet’s lateral energy would be completely sapped but it would retain all of its rotational energy. However, I’ve watched more than my fair share of Mythbusters so I’m aware that in crazy circumstances, crazy, seemingly impossible things can happen.
definitely fake.
Okay, I just saw the video where they demonstrate it. I hadn’t watch that before.
ASSUMING it’s real, it appears that the bullet is shot at the ice at an angle where it digs out a divot (transferring much of its lateral energy) which (given a precise angle) ends up launching itself up into the air at a speed slow enough that when it falls to the ice again, it doesn’t penetrate. With a soft enough medium at the right angle, I guess it’s feasible that much of the rotation might remain.
I’m still dubious but I guess the ice could be soft enough to refrain from deforming the bullet.
In one Mythbusters episode, they try to reproduce the 360 degree ricochet (bouncing off 3 steel plates), a vertical shot with the high-speed showed the bullet flying towards the first plate in maybe 1/2 second, flying to the second plate in maybe 4 seconds, and taking a good 10-15 seconds to hit the third plate (after which it went painfully slow). So it’s obvious that such a radical change in direction (close to 135 degrees or more, it looks like) would sap a lot of velocity from the round.
I’d still love to call ‘fake’ on this, but I wouldn’t have my mind blow entirely if I found out it was real.
hmmm shoot water it deforms shoot solid water no deforming ?
First video right near the end you can see what appears to be string or monofilament for just a split second.
the other vid with some guys and a 40 cal though makes me wonder ?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=938_1287094970 Is the bullet bouncing back out, landing and spinning?
First, I don’t see any discoloration on the back of the bullet. Wouldn’t you expect to see some darkening? It doesn’t penetrate that deep into the ice either. I would also expect to see some deformation. And on top of it all, that gun sounds awfully quiet. I’m almost thinking they’re just loaded with primers and no powder or something. I could be completely wrong, but they don’t seem to be normal loads.
As a guy who recently lost a Glock barrel to a primer-only load (followed by a full-strength one), I can say with confidence that these are not primer-only rounds!
Other than that I have no information to share…except that I think this would probably work, but I don’t think it’s a world-class idea to try and if I were going to break the law up here in Canada, I’d probably do it for something a lot cooler, and hopefully smarter, than shooting my gun at a frozen lake on which I was standing.
Well, I don’t know what they did, but there are just a plethora of things that defy conventional thought. The bullet is fired at a relatively shallow angle. The bullets shown only penetrate about a 1/4" (with no distortion). If the ice is that hard you would think the bullet would glance off.
If thats real, thats the craziest thing Ive ever seen.
Somewhat related I shot a Mesquite tree a year ago with my S&W model 15 using 158 grn LNR. Bullet almost completely mushroomed on the tree and flew straight back and hit me in the ankle. barely did any damage to the tree.
Yeah, it is FAKE.
Go slo-mo and look at it relative to the iceball. You will see it impacted much further away from where the spinning bullet was found.
I think that the idea here is not that it stops exactly where it hits the ice, and just stays there, spinning.
If that were the case they wouldn’t be looking around trying to spot one. They would just shoot, then go look at the spot it hit.
Instead, what they are at least implying is happening is that the bullet hits the ice, then, at least in the first case, bounces around on the surface a bit, spinning like a top.
I guess it might be fake but nothing about this jumps out at me as impossible, personally.
If the bullet is real, I think that it is was set into rotation by the rifleing “duh” and it continues to spin because it is still hot after it makes second contact with the ice, thus melting the ice and now you have a bullet spinning on a thin layer of water as a lubricatant. Ever see those large round boulders in fountains that are turning on a sheet of water. Same idea only smaller.