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Bud’s Police Supply sells the Double Star M4 for $650 shipped!! How would you rate this weapon? Is it suitable for home defense needs. Is this a quality weapon or junk? It appears to be rated highly.
Please advise
I would say that it is not a quality weapon, relative to the needs you described. The following threads outline many points that will help you better make a decision. The short answer is a BCM complete.
Two threads that are good reads, they will explain the how and why for many things.
Please use the search function and look for Double Star. I think there is enough info. available.
Save your money and purchase a true Tier 1 rifle. You won’t be disappointed. Double Star has been known to produce a few good rifles in and amongst thousands of crappy ones. They’re not mil-spec, tolerances are poor at best, no staking of parts whatsoever, etc. This is what happens when a company like Double Star is more concerned with quantity than quality.
When I purchased my first AR, I saved some extra money and bought a Bushmaster thinking it was a decent rifle and high above Double Star and Olympic in terms of quality and production. However, after reading many of the posts on this site, namely The Chart, I quickly learned that my Bushy would require quite a bit of “fixing” to make it right. Had I known then what I know now…I would have saved for another 3 months and purchased a Colt or a Noveske.
In short, if you’re looking for a rifle for HD or SHTF use…do your homework and read the posts that the other members have linked to above. Buy a quality, well-built rifle from a respectable builder and you won’t be sorry.
As the say… “buy once, cry once”
Whoever rated it highly is shilling for the company or is profiting from the sale.
Doublestar is cheap crap. For around a thousand bucks you can have a top notch AR15 which is good to go for 10,000 rounds. Your life is worth more than the $350 savings.
Not only that but Bud’s is not exactly the best place to buy a gun unless you don’t mind waiting 2-3 weeks after paying before they even ship your gun. I know I will never deal with them again, I would rather skip the LE discount and pay full price.
If you look around you can find the Smith and Wesson “Nation’s finest rebate” and get $100 off one of their AR-15’s. While not a Noveske they’re decent rifles and at a really good price with the rebate. You very much get what you pay for in an AR-15.
+1 on the S&W. Pretty decent rifle for not much more money. Or maybe find a nice rifle used, like a Colt or LMT.
Last two guns I ordered from Bud’s; I ordered on a Monday and picked them up from my FFL on Thursday.
Double Stars are crap. In my research to buy an M4 (Bought a Daniel Defense M4 V1), I tried a few out and none were up to snuff to be used as a defensive weapon. OUt of spec & cheap. A range/plinking gun at the best.
Of course you’ll see good reviews of weapons on a site that is selling them; it’s called sales; and they are trying to sell you!
I just received a S&W MP15 this week after ordering from CDNN sports. The S&W rebate form I have is “born in the USA promo” and is $100 or 5 mags (I am taking the $100). All total it was just under $850 and then take off the $100 so $750…that is a simply outstanding deal.
Once I saw the placement of the S&W on the chart…and the price it could be had for I jumped on it. If your looking for a deal I would try and see if CDNN has any left. I think its more than a $100 better rifle compared to what your debating on.
The Gander Mountain up by my mom’s house is running an in store sale a S & W MP 15 with a EoTech 512 for 1200.00 dollars. I almost jumped on the deal if I hadn’t bought my Colt LE6920 just recently. The store is located in Dickson City. Worth looking into if you have a Gander Mountain store near you.
Valsmere
Citizensoldier. Did you have any issues with your BM? Or did you not like it just because of what you read on internet.
Edit: nm
With all the quality carbines out there…there is absolutely no reason to go with a double star. Colt 6920s are $1100 some odd bucks these days.
I have never understood the need to bash Doublestar on here… I don’t frequent this forum, but it never ceases to amaze me to see the “bad blood” on here… I have a Doublestar DSC Patrol and love it. I have shot it a lot (not exactly sure how many rounds), and I have never had any issues with it. I understand it is not a Colt or a Noveske… but come on, unless you have one and it has had issues which you could not get resolved by J&T… not sure you should bash it.
What interested me were the blatant claims of being “mil spec” on their website, that disappeared when questions were asked.
I just don’t see the point of buying a cheap, cut-corners AR.
Buds is a great company to buy from. I have purchased several LE weapons from them w/o a hitch. They are good to go.
As Double Star is manufactured right down the road from me, I would bump up to a Smith and Wesson. Damn fine rifle for the money. Several LE use them and run the shit out of them. GTG…:dirol:
KC
Just a few things.
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Their claims were BS and misleading.
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You have a sample of one. That means that you may well have a decent one that works. But, consistency is the key.
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You don’t know how many round you have through the weapon. Run it through a course where you put a few hundred rounds through it in a day and see what happens.
Doublestar rifles are suitable as a replacement for when the airsoft M4 goes down. For anything more serious, look elsewhere.