Broward Sheriff's Captain Jan Jordan resigns over Parkland response

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After a commission finds she completely f-ed the response, and didn’t follow the PDs own SOP for active shooters. Resignation is not enough. Criminal negligence? Other? What of Sgt. Miller? If all those kids hadn’t died, this would be funny. As is, resignations and walking away with their pensions, etc does not sit well with me. It appears that entire PD is rotten from the top down at this point, with the obvious caveat I’m sure some solid LEOs exist with in it. But time after time, seemingly, everyone in that PD involved with this event, starting with the SO and up to Capt. Jordan, did virtually nothing write. I hate to be the armchair expert type in this type of thing, but by all metrics so far, it seems we can call a spade a spade here:

Broward Sheriff’s Captain Jan Jordan resigned after a state commission found she’d totally botched Parkland shooting.

Fort Lauderdale, FL – The Broward police captain who botched the police response to the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School submitted her resignation to Broward Sheriff Scott Israel, effective Nov. 20.

On Nov. 15, the state commission investigating the incident called Broward Sheriff’s Captain Jan Jordan “ineffective” during the active shooter incident in Parkland on Feb. 14.

Capt. Jordan took on the role of incident commander upon arrival at the high school, but failed to send deputies into the 1200 building where the gunman was still on his shooting spree, the Miami Herald reported.

Instead, she told them to set up a perimeter and continued to ask whether the students had been evacuated, as if she had no understanding of a lockdown.

Capt. Jordan did not follow the sheriff’s department’s active shooter training protocols, the commission determined.

Also on the chopping block after the most recent Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission meeting at the BB&T Center in Sunrise was Broward Sheriff’s Sergeant Brian Miller, according to the Miami Herald.

Investigation by the commission revealed that Sgt. Miller was, in fact, the first official to arrive on the scene and should have taken the role of incident commander.

However, evidence presented to the commissioners proved that Sgt. Miller did nothing, the Miami Herald reported.

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Sheriff should have resigned as well.

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Of course. That rot started from the top down no doubt.

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Law enforcement do not have a constitutional duty to protect someone. I take that as a major argument that citizens should have the right to carry.

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So it is ok stand outside a school with your dick in your hand and do nothing??

Those lazy POS M/F’s, should be publicly shot.

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No, they don’t, they have a MORAL DUTY to do so.

It seems that everyone confuses things like constitutional duties, how-to documents like Manuals of Rules, General Orders and Use of Force policies with ‘how stuff is done all the time.’ Agency policies do indeed provide rules and regs for how to do things, but LE does plenty in the line of duty that’s not explicitly covered by rules that cover every possible scenario.

If you had any idea what real LEOs think of the Broward County response in that incident, you’d be surprised…or relieved.

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It’s well known what the team from Coral Springs thought once they arrived on scene to find no one had gone in, etc.

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I imagine I’d be relieved.

I didn’t mean to insinuate that I’m okay with the LEOs inaction. I just have to remind myself from time to time that we are often on our own, and unfortunately so are those that can’t fend for themselves

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Not just them, any decent responders. The tone of the talk after that incident was damning, and widespread across agencies.

No worries, and I agree with the concept of responsibility for one’s own defense. When I carried a gun for a living I knew that I was there to protect above all else, and that actions taken outside of policies and regulations but with defense of life in mind superseded mindless adherence to rules, just because those rules existed. Any decent cop will agree that they’d take the ‘Sustained’ IA case finding for taking lifesaving actions outside of policy, rather than live with the fact that their inaction and COWARDICE cost lives.

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Them and everyone else.

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“That’s a helluva price to pay for being stylish…”

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She was a failure but I think it goes further than that. There’s a lot of LEO experience here and I bet there’s not one that has a department policy that says wait for an incident commander to arrive to take charge before acting during an active shooter. Whoever is there is the IC till relieved. It should have been over long before by the personnel on scene taking action.

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This.

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Yep, and I think this ultimately stops with Scott Israel. I’ve known him for decades going back to Ft. Lauderdale PD as head to the Ft. Lauderdale “raiders” narcotics team. He always seemed more concerned with political leadership than effective crime fighting. He seems like the person who would put somebody like Capt. Jordan in charge of something so important and the create a kind of leadership that lacks initiative and has to wait for someone with a Field Marshall ranking to arrive and make decisions.

In the last 10 years BSO had become disturbingly ineffectual regardless a number of good deputies willing to do the job. Ken Jenne really was the person most responsible for taking a decent Sheriff’s Office and running it into the ground and nobody has been able to fix it since. Of course he was a Lawton Chiles appointee so we all should have seen it coming.

He was using the Sheriffs Office as a stepping stone to becoming Broward County Strong Mayor (a position that didn’t even exist that was to be created for him) but voters were 100% against it (it was a colossal failure in Dade County and a hotbed of corruption) and when it didn’t happen Jenne resigned when a case of political corruption being built against him came to light.

Not sure why Lamberti didn’t work out, at least he was actually a badge (unlike Jenne who never was a sworn officer a day in his life), and seemed to be trying to undo the mess left behind by Jenne but for some reason Israel ran against him and won and well…here we are.

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Being given the option to resign is meh.

This dude has, err had a six figure salary and one hell of a pension. The victims families will hopefully have some good attorneys to seek damages from department’s leadership and the SRO that is enjoying his ludicrous pension in retirement. Hit them where it hurts.

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https://goo.gl/images/Y58JoU

He would’ve shut that shooting down, just saying

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Micromanagement always results in failure. How many times does this lesson have to be relearned? LE needs to quit promoting insecure CYA Specialists and start promoting risk takers who believe in their people.

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That’s crazy talk. Quit trying to turn a perfectly good bureaucracy into police work. Things might get accomplished.

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So many in LE administrative leadership assignments with nothing more than academic credentials.

IMO, if they added a pier/subordinate review section to the promotional process that’d be a good way to get leaders instead of over-educated POST credit weak sauce a-holes promoted.