I just bought a HK45 and HK P30L. Bought a box of Magtech blue box range ammo for each and ran into the range to have a little fun. The 45 shot great, no malfunctions PERFECT. Loved it. Felt great in the hand, just as expected.
The P30 L, 9mm long slide had issues. With one mag it stove piped about every three to five shots So I went to the car and grabbed the other mag after this continued. The other mag ran fine, (I could feel much greater spring pressure) but would not lock back after last round. Any experience or feedback appreciated
When I first got my P30 I had problems in the first 200 or so rounds. Having had time to reflect on it I think I didn’t clean all the storage grease off the gun, plus I was using light rounds initially(115gr. UMC). Perhaps the recoil spring needed some breakin too. During this initial period I never had problems with any hollowpoints I tried, only the UMC. After this period I’ve only had one malfunction in around 4K rounds.
My P30 had similar issues at first, user error. Be sure to clean it well and lube it good. Then shoot some hot rounds through it and it’ll loosen up just fine.
I just checked it out, the guide rod was dry and even little rusty looking. Hit it with oil and put some drops down the rails. I’m going to put 100 rounds of Winchester white box through it tomorrow and another box of whatever I can find.
It probably needs oil and 200 rounds. I’ll give range report tomorrow night. Thanks guys.
In my experience, Euro 9mm guns (with the exception of Glocks) really benefit from 100-200 NATO/+p rounds first thing down the barrel. It’s not a necessity but it tends to minimize both early problems and potential hiccups down the road.
Definitely clean & lubricate the pistol per the manual. Until you’ve done that, you can’t even start to guess why a gun might be having problems.
If the slide isn’t locking back, it’s more likely than not your grip style. Be sure no part of either hand is contacting the slide release lever during recoil. You may want/need to change which grip panel you put on the left side to help with this.
Weak magazine springs often result in stovepipes. The top round in the magazine sags, giving the extracted casing more room to bounce around rather than getting ejected right out the port. If that problem persists with the one mag, I’d call HK USA and get a new spring.
I was able to find 50 rounds of +p ammo today. So much for reducing ammo cost. Great point about the slide release and my thumb. Did not get a chance to shoot today. Will pop off 150 or so rounds tomorrow. Whats the current thinking on Lube with the gun. I use some Lube on my 1911 barrel and a few other areas. Does HK suggest using any Lube or just “Earl”.
Todd, I was trying to figure out if I use Lube or Oil or it does not matter. Do you HK guys use any lube, (I have the Wilson Combat Lube and Smith Enterprises lube for my M1A) and gallons of Hoppes oil and Rem Oil. Whatever it takes to get the gun to cycle properly. Time will tell, or Time, $$$, and ammo will tell.
I use Militec. It’s kept many of my guns – Berettas, Glocks, Smiths, SIGs – running for thousands of rounds at a time between cleaning/lubing. I’m sure there are plenty of lubricants out there that work great, but Militec has done the job for me for almost a decade.
As previously stated: Cleaned and lubed my P30. Took it to the range, first clip second shot, “stovepipe”. And that was the last one. I ran another 100 rounds through of cheap whitebox Win ammo. Functioned perfect. Should have known, what a relief. I watched my thumb, and it locked back every time. My HK45, just rocked on. Lesson learned "for the second time- Clean-lube and run 100 rounds before passing judgement. I went through this with a Tactical XD 40. Now it runs great.
I’d strongly suggest putting at least 500 more rounds downrange with it, followed by at least one box of your carry ammunition of choice before trusting it for anything other than range use, particularly given its history to date with you.
I just picked up a P30L a few days ago and certainly hope that I don’t experience any of these issues. This will make my third P30, my other two are regular V3 P30s that I use for IDPA. I’ve already started working the recoil spring by working the slide a few hundred times. I’m taking mine out tomorrow (Friday) for a couple hundred rounds. Only hope that it behaves as well as the other two. I’ve read about more than few issues with the long slide P30s.
I concur with JonInWA’s comment. I would not consider 98 failure-free rounds an adequate test of a gun that has shown reliability issues. While you’re very likely correct and the problem has worked itself out, my personal standard is 200 rounds of carry ammo through the gun.
I will run several hundred more rounds through it. And a box of +P ammo. I bought it for my sons ( 10 and 12) because my 45’s are a bit much for them now. But I still don’t need or want it jamming every mag, especially when I just shelled out a grand! I have some old favorites that get the “Home defense and Carry” designations. The P30 still has much to prove.
Biker98, I see where you like to work the slide to assist in the break in procedure. Do others concur with this process to augment the normal range time? Is there any negative effects with dry firing the HK P30L or HK45? I do like dry fire drills, especially since these are my first two DA/SA triggers. I have only 1911’s and XD’s.