I’ve handeled M4G’s 19. It is rough. I sweat like my ex-wife in church so that is a good thing if I’m shooting with bare hands.
Matt
thanks. LOL - if i can do it, anyone can - i’m not that skilled.
I’ve been thinking about sending them my competition M&P9 for they’re long trigger job. The trigger bar engages the sear earlier with this. I may try to do it myself. What I think they do is add metal to the front right edge of the sear so that the trigger bar runs into is sooner so that you don’t have a long take up for the first shot.
earlier sear engagement means longer overtravel, though, i believe. how is that addressed when they do it? when i did my M&P trigger job, yes, the first shot has more travel, but overtravel and reset was minimized.
it’s also possible to get earlier sear engagement by bending up the trigger bar/loop slightly.
Not necessarily. If all you did was bend the trigger bar you would be correct.
Along with bending the trigger bar, you could then lengthen the rear edge of the cam horizontally so that it would run into the sear housing a little earlier, thus shortening the overtravel. I think if this were done the top of the cam would have to be longer and more square so that it would correctly engage the firing pin safety earlier and completely as well. A set screw added were the trigger bar cam hits the sear housing might be able to control overtravel as well. But without testing I’m not sure that the firing pin safety would completely be disengaged.
I’ve done about a dozen trigger jobs so far using instructions on the Burwell sight.
hmm - yes, i can see where shortening the overtravel by lengthening the rear edge of the cam would cause problems with firing pin safety plunger engagement. that part would have to be built up too so it’s a bit further back. right now, with the stock part geometry and dimensions, it seems to be a battle between overtravel and takeup distance - one affects the other inversely.
i wonder if it’s just a matter of time before someone offers aftermarket parts for the M&P like the glock, like a new drop-in trigger bar/cam and sear.
Not to mention, that once you cut the slide, the tennifer cannot be replaced in those areas. The tennifer metal treatment is one of the Glock features that I would not trade for a few cosmetic touches.
Since this is a Bowie Tactical thread I have a question.
Has anybody ever gotten their Crimson Trace grips stippled by them? If so, got any pictures of the work?
VA:
Here is a link to Bowie’s website, there’s 1911 CT grips that he did. I handled one that one of my instructors showed us in a class, it was very nice. Grippy enough for a secure hold but doesn’t snag on your concealment clothing.
Thank you for the link.
VA_Dinger
Nighthawk had a Vickers Tactical with CT grips done by BTC. They felt very nice.
I have a 23 done by dave bowie and it is the most ergonomic glock I have ever handled. His grip reductions are the best IMO. His stippling is aggressive but not to the point of discumfort. I carry my 23 in a raven iwb holster every day w/o a problem. If your glock doesnt feel just right to you i would suggest looking into his services before switching over to another design (i.e. smith m&p, sa xd, etc.) And the cost is money well spent.
dinger
David did 3 glocks for me
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grip reduction were the best in the business. had 3 done by all the big name people. not near as good.
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did 7 smiths for me trigger jobs. same as he carry’s. good enuff for me. did 1 of the 1st ctc grips as i have small hands(size #8 glove) 3 full size. 3 compacts. all 9mm. 1 .45 bedroom gun. too f-----g heavy to carry. dont even own a holster. did the ctc thingy and trimmed a bit for me. SPECTACULAR. early on in the process. his work is even better now.
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pics. cant post or load. when Lynn gets back form T,D.I. this Monday if u still want pics he will do for me and i will send lmk.
u cant do wrong with anything he does.
Have you tried a 4th gen 19?
This thread is THREE AND A HALF YEARS OLD, guys…
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Roger that, I’d love to see some pictures. I’ve seen LAV’s CT grips and HK45 with Bowie Tactical work but pictures of more of his work is always interesting.
I love the look and feel of a stippled and reduced Glock if done tastefully.
Please note the above pix by wahoo95 are NOT my work. My grip reductions are true reductions. They take the back strap parallel with the front. This is only an ever so slight thining of the polymer above. I state this not knocking the work but i have had some people send me guns from this smith ticked off as all get out wanting them redone when they thought they were getting a full reduction.
David Bowie
My apologies David as I should have noted that when I posted the pics. That work was done by Wendell Tactical who is no longer in business as far I as I know.
I’ve always been a fan of your work and have directed several people to you after they saw my Glocks and wanted similar work done.