I have a Fort Knox Defender now and want to bolt it to the floor. Who makes the strongest bolts that I can get? I am looking for a legit real sticker that an expert would recoginize. Not sure if I want a “warning black powder”, Highly explosive, fire works storage etc. Whats the most dangerous thing that I could get on a sticker so a smart thief would not use a welder to get in it? Where can I get legit signs?
this is about as “stay the fuck away with open flame” as you can get.
i think you can get them here: http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/hazmat/placards/class1-chemicals.html#Div1.1 , but i’m not sure if there are licensing requirements for them or anything. i got mine from uncle sam…
as far as bolts, what are you bolting to? if you’re going into concrete slab, you can redhead or epoxy all-thread- both are generally approved to secure structures to foundation walls, so they’re most likely gonna hold your safe down. epoxied all-thread is preferable. if you’re going into OSB sub-floor, with a crawl space beneath, and you REALLY dont want that fucker going anywhere, you can use bolts through a steel plate from the underside. and actually, just through-bolting through the OSB into butts of 2x6 would probably hold just as well. otherwise, just the weight of the safe being tipped, if they can get any kind of rocking motion, would probably be enough to pull the bolts through the sub-floor. if it’s going in an upstairs room, with a drywall ceiling below, unless you want to demo the ceiling you’re just gonna have to lag-bolt it to the sub-floor. CDX subfloor might hold tight enough to prevent getting a prybar under there, but it’s not bomb proof. if it’s an older house (30+ years ish), you might have a car-decking subfloor- tongue-in-groove 2x6 planks- these should hold lag bolts well.
A sign saying “Infectious Waste” might work better…:-))
I would use caution and thoroughly research what you are doing before using the 1.1x sticker on your safe (or anything else that doesn’t actually contain HE).
I agree it would really “say something”…whether or not it would be taken seriously is another issue (and is not why I said to use caution either).
happen to know regs on displaying explosive hazmat placards? i’ve always operated under the assumption that it’s probably not a good idea to throw a 1.1 magnet on your vehicle and drive around, but i’ve never bothered to look it up.
i think the OP is probably perfectly fine putting whatever he wants on his gunsafe, in the privacy of his own home, though.
http://www.compliancesigns.com/
Check out their stuff. You can also order your own custom signs for cheap too. hence the one I have by my user name.
Riley~~~
And what the hell is with rulaifozu? Some kind of idiot?
I’ve got 49 CFR somewhere here in the office but I don’t know off the top of my head. I’m quite sure that driving around in a vehicle marked for a hazard that it does not actually contain is not permitted.
There would probably never be an issue with it on a safe in your house, I was just imagining a scenario (in my mind about equal in probability to a thief entering with a welder/cutter/etc) where for instance if you ever had a fire and the fire department responded and entered the house, you might have some headaches. You’d possibly (probably?) avoid legal troubles but it might cause some short term discomfort.
you mean like when firefighters see the sign and hit the proverbial “abort” button, evacuate the neighborhood, and watch your house burn to the ground from 200 meters away? i suppose that would suck
That is what I was imagining, as a possible scenario. Even worse, a child in the burning house, and once that placard is seen, the firefighters’ search is over. That would definitely be a bad day.
I agree. I think putting such a sign on a safe is dumb on many levels.
Grade 8. What diameter? A couple things to think about are using anti-seize, a washer and the proper torque. You may also want to use an all thread instead, in conjunction with a washer and nut, again, torqued to the proper amount of ft lbs and use anti-seize as well.
I believe you’d be alright if the safe was in a closet, or similarly hidden from view. I don’t think firefighters are going to go searching through every closet if your house catches on fire. A burglar probably will, however.
How about a life size picture of Rosie O’Donnell or Michelle Obama taped to the safe.
That ought to keep everything but the flies away.
I always suggest a sign that says “Jehovahs Witness Reading Materials”
That’ll keep everyone from taking interest in the contents of any container.
torque? anti-seize??
you are obviously not a carpenter. 
It’s from working on jets and some other whiz bang stuff 
Seizing a nut on to all thread or a bolt, also known as galling, is a severe frickin’ pain when it comes time to get them off!
Side note - I’m in your neck of the woods, Portland, for the night. Or hippie dippy patchouli-ville from the looks of it 
Here’s another way of protecting your safe:
Actually if firefighters are searching your home they will check everywhere. Kids will hide in the most unlikely places. In truth whenever I’ve searched in a fire structure reading signs was the last thing on my mind. However, a hissing dive bottle or propane cylinder will definitely get your attention and may indeed “hinder” the search of your structure.
When talking about your average burglar, those statements in red are in conflict with reality.
I agree that the above sort of stickers would be dumb on a few levels. First thing I thought was that type of sticker would only serve to make your safe even more interesting to potential thieves. Like some of the others, second thing I thought about was the FD aborting a search, evacuating your residence and the neighbors on sight of the placard, and watching it burn. And yes they will look in closets…
If you can, put your safe in a corner and bolt it to 2 walls and the floor. Make sure to follow manufacturer’s recommendations so as not to compromise the fire rating.
PS have you seen THIS? Had that safe been bolted into a corner with the left side against a wall, it would have taken much longer to get into.
OC has no affect on 5% of the population. And after you’ve been sprayed with enough, it only becomes a mild annoyance. An N95 rated mask (dust mask available from 3M) is enough to keep this stuff from bothering you. Don’t put all your trust into OC.
Riley~~~