A local shop has/had the 700 Milspec 5r with SS barrel in stock. It looked nice with the SS barrel, but it was pretty heavy. Something like 8.5 lbs or so. Not that the extra weight would matter shooting from a bench, but I was just surprised at how heavy it was. The Milspec 5r was also almost twice the price of the AAC-SD version, so I just went with the more basic model and figure I could mod it as I go.
You did good. Let us know how it shoots. BTW, I have a Vortex Viper PST 4-16 FFP that I bought from Scott at Liberty Optics and love it. Do what Orkan said and call Scott. Tell him we sent you. He is one of the good guys.
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Do you mind if I ask where you ordered it from? I cannot find one locally.
I ordered mine through a local Sports Authority. They said that they can special order pretty much any model of the brands that they normally carry (Remington, Savage, Benelli, etc.). The salesperson had a catalog from what looked like a regional distributor, but I don’t remember who it was or where. I can certainly ask the next time I’m there if you’d like. The pricing was pretty good. A little less than MSRP, which is great for where I live.
Ah, thanks very much.
I’m in a pretty big city in Texas. I thought I would be able to buy one off the rack. But it looks like I’m going to order one as well.
The good news is that there is a Sports Authority less than a dozen miles from Casa Serious. I’ll wander by there this weekend. Thanks again for the response. I think we will be comparing notes on our builds. ![]()
This is a good idea. I recently picked up an unfired Remington 700 LTR with a Harris bipod, GG&G base, Bushnell Elite 3200 10x scope, a metal case and 60 rounds of ammo for 900 bucks.
Im not saying you should wait for a good deal to pop up, but check around before you buy to see if there are any out there.
Sweet!
I was browswing through Liberty Optic’s website last night (searching for mounts and rings that they carry to see if they have some that I could include with my scope order) and the Vortex PST scopes are out of stock effective 10/28. I guess I’ll have to check back with them from time to time. I may also just give him a call to see what’s up.
Don’t rely on the website. You need to call him to really get the skinny.
remington 700s are your best bets. The heavier the barrel the better. their sps v and sps tactical rifles are the shiz in new stocks. Oh and make sure to save money for good glass.
And new triggers. I’m pleased with my SPS Tactical for my first Precision type bolt gun.
By the time I wear out this barrel, I’ll know if I want to get a Surgeon action and have my own built.
I called Scott today and he is out of the Vortex Viper PST and said that he hopes to have them back in by mid-December sometime and possibly sooner. My backup plan was the regular Viper (non-PST) model and he was out of those as well. Seems like he either had a run on inventory or trouble getting backstock since he was even out of the Seekins bases and rings that I was also interested in including in my order.
I asked him about some other options that he had in stock, or will have in stock shortly. For a FFP scope, he recommended a Weaver Tactical. For a SFP scope, which I am leaning towards, he recommended a Sightron SIII Long Range. I’ll have to do some research on those. Any inside on those scopes?
Don’t mean to totally threadhack. Including this here as maybe the information will help the OP. With regards to FFP and SFP, I typically will be shooting at static targets of known range. I won’t be using this rifle for hunting or competitions where I need to range the targets, at least not for now. So I am thinking that a SFP will suit me well for now as it won’t obscure the targets at higher magnification. Any feedback on that?
I’ll probably wait until the Viper PST’s come in. That will give me more time to save up as the PST’s are a little on the high side for my price range. I’ll shoot him an email to put me on a backorder for the Viper PST scope though.
Thank you for the tip!
Ok… stop right there. FFP reticles do NOT obscure the target on high magnification. Get that in your head, and IGNORE where ever you heard otherwise. That is a blanket statement that doesn’t apply to SFP any more than it applies to FFP.
Proof?
Here’s a thick ffp reticle. That house is a MILE away. Tell me you couldn’t quarter an IPSC standing in that doorway.
This is a thin FFP reticle. That IPSC target is a thousand yards out. It is easy to quarter the 6x6" head on that target.
Choose whatever you are comfortable with… but for god’s sake don’t believe or propagate false information.
Ahh, thank you! My apologies. Never want to spread misinformation around! That was just what I’ve read online and heard at the range, stuff like a 1 MOA dot will be this size and such distance. Thank you for the clarification.
I’ve been searching all over for examples comparing FFP and SFP reticles. I’ve only seen a few youtube videos where it zooms in with what looks like a thick FFP reticle and the lines almost cover the target at high maginification. But nothing is said about what scope, magnification range, or size of the target. None of the shops around here seem to stock FFP scopes, so I haven’t had a chance to see for myself.
Is the pic with the house your Viper PST FFP mil/mil? What magnification level is it on in the pic? I won’t be shooting anywhere near a mile (1760 yards), or at least any time soon. But good visual reference.
What scope is that in your second pic? The combination of dots and hashes seems interesting. I kind of like the Viper PST reticle because of the hashes. Similar to the Nightforce NP-R1 reticle.
Thanks again for your feedback.
The first scope is a vortex razor 5-20, the second scope is a premier 5-25.
http://www.primalrights.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1522
There’s a hardcore no-punches-pulled write up I did about FFP reticles and the myths surrounding them.
I intend to do a much more professional comparison in a future article.
It’s no surprise that your local shops don’t stock FFP or know anything about them. Only the people that really intend to get first round hits on target use them. Hunters… primarily shoot inside of 300yds in which case reticle holds are pretty much pointless. Doesn’t stop me from using FFP on EVERY hunting rifle I own though. It’s especially helpful when killing coyotes.
[QUOTE=orkan;1129330]Buy rem700 AAC edition
Throw the stock away or sell it
Buy a good fiberglass stock or chassis systemQUOTE]
Why dont you like the stock?
I dont own one so Im not defending.
Just curious.
I thought Hogue stocks were GTG
They are junk. Some work, some don’t. They flex like crazy. I had one sps tac in 223 that would shift point of impact as much as 6" at 100yds depending on slight pressure variations on the bipod. Replaced that stock with a HS precision on the same rifle, and it shot 3/4 moa.
I had a 22-250 with the remmy plastic tupperware stock and it would do the same thing. POI would shift as much as 7 inches at 100yds. Put an HS precision on there and it turned into a 1/2 moa coyote slaying machine.
Cheap stocks are worthless when you want repeatable POI from session to session.
When you pop the hogue off an look at it compared to an HS Precision… the hogue is a joke.
… and hs precision is below manners and mcmillan on the totem!