Billet uppers and lowers

Greetings all. My first post here and I am looking for info on billet uppers and lowers.

First off let me say I don’t claim to know much about AR’s but have had at least one most of my adult life. Shot some NRA highpower a few years ago and have been playing with a RRA since last June. All that means is that I know which end the bullets come out of.

I have the bug to build one of my own. This will be a long term project and I will have many questions as I go.

I figure the first thing to get is the upper and lower. Not interested in anything but billets for this build.

I have been lurking around this site for awhile now and have gathered quite a bit of information I think.
Planned use for this thing will be range plinking, coyote hunting and maybe some 3 gun.

I looked at Sun Devil, and by that actually had some uppers and lowers in my hands. Really liked them but one thing bothered me. The “standard” trigger guard. I came back here and learned that there are at least some makers that have an “integral” trigger guard and I believe that is what I want.

Please tell me your opinions and pros and cons of each maker. I don’t even know how many or who makes what I want. The Magpuls look good but from what I can tell they are not available. Please post links as to where to get whatever you suggest.

Thanks in advance.

I’ve heard that the Magpul lower is on the back burner for them so I’d skip it unless you don’t mind a long wait.

In addition to the Sun Devil,

http://www.tacticalinc.com/t15bdx-billet-deluxe-precision-machined-ar15-lower-receiver-p-1082.html

and

http://www.jprifles.com/1.2.1.php

Are the two options I know of for lower receivers. For the upper there’s JP, Larue and Vltor.

The POF lowers are expensive ($300 neighborhood) but feature an integrated trigger guard. The new gen III ones also have an ambidextrous bolt catch, but it uses a proprietary part/receiver design. The $18 dollar option is to get a magpul trigger guard or the rra winter guard when avaliable.

Now I see that Sun Devil is making a lower with the integral trigger guard so I am back interested in them. I also saw another SD upper the other day that had a forward assist so I went back to their website and they had both of the above listed.

Any pros or cons from anyone who has experience with these?

I am thinking the forward assist would be the way to go.

There are a few billet threads in this section, you may get some good info from them. The trigger guards are nice, but you can drop in a Magpul trigger guard on any lower you want, so don’t let that be your end deciding factor.

DS isnt making the lower with the trigger guard any longer. They only made a few and then canceled production

Ths SD uppers are very good and I would have them but they donot have M4 cuts.

I will never own a upper without a FA.

I would second that recommendation.

Embarassed to say that I have had 3 or 4 SD uppers in my hands and did not notice they did not have M4 cuts. I guess that would be kind of a deal breaker there. Same if they are not making the integral trigger guard. I know you can put a RR or Magpul but I don’t really want to go that way. Just looks cheap on a billet part. Never saw the need for the folding TG anyway. I also realize that the billet isn’t needed either but have forged ones and want something different.

For a different looking upper buy the Vltor MUR.

Why billet?

I’ve been kicking around the idea of building a rifle around a billet lower and really like the looks of the SMOS. Mostly I like the wide magwell mouth and the beveling there. At more than double the cost of a standard lower I’ve been somewhat reluctant. Yes, $150 extra isn’t much in the grand scheme of what often winds up being a $3k rifle, but double is still double and other than the wider magwell I can’t really come up with a good reason for using one.

Also, FWIW, I don’t think most billet lowers will work with a Redi-mag, if that’s your thing.

Yeah it looks cool but 285.00 is CRAZY for a stripped lower. A SD lower can be had for almost half and its billett.

What is a Link to the SD Lower? And how much do that cost for a stripped lower?

http://www.sundevilmfg.com/

Prices are on the site.