Had him do a 3 pound job, it started to double on re-set after about 300 rounds, he fixed it, and it’s been GTG for the last 300. Fingers crossed.
Very clean break.
Oh boy, this is what I get for trying to compose a post while rushing out the door to work. Let’s back up a little. Avenger29 and theJanitor, I can see that what I stated might be construed as argumentative but it surely wasn’t intended as such. I did go back and read my post as well as Rob’s.
His comment about ‘learning to shoot’ was taken by me to imply that if you can’t deal with the GI trigger you need more training, and that no other trigger is desirable or needed. I may have taken some creative liberties in assuming that’s what he meant. But I have read comments by others here that imply that nothing but a GI trigger is trustworthy and surely will fail. I just can’t buy that. Or the idea that a lousy trigger should be ‘learned’ first by an inexperienced shooter.
It’s sort of like the optics vs. iron argument I saw Rob and others discussing. I personally feel that a really bad trigger will hinder really excellent shooting for the seasoned shooter as well as the beginner. My Colt had a trigger that broke at just under 8 pounds, with considerable and inconsistent roughness. I had been accustomed to shooting very light triggers on my competition handguns and this just seemed ridiculous to have to fight it, so in went an aftermarket trigger. I consider myself to be a respectable shot with any sort of trigger, but a good trigger break sure is easier to master and is more conducive to accurate shot delivery.
Sorry about the off topic and to bring it back in line, I bought a trigger group from Springfield a couple months ago and installed it in one of my AR’s. It had an unusual trait, and I posted here asking about it. Upon releasing the trigger and dropping the hammer down from the disconnector to the full cock notch, the face of the hammer rotated up over a quarter inch. I mean it really smacked the sear notch hard when you released the trigger. It bothered me. That, along with the unimpressive looking work on the engagement surfaces showing very little bearing surface, led me to simply remove it without actually ever firing a shot with it. The stories I have read by Rob and others of doubling have convinced me that it was not something I wanted in my rifle, period. Only top of the line trigger groups for me from now on.
Again, sorry if I ruffled any feathers…
Hi guys, new guy here.
I have been reading this post with interest. No I do not have a trigger reworked by Bill Springfield so can not comment on his work.
For the record I use my AR’s for Hunting but also for work also when the need arrises. I have a Bushmaster 16" M4 ORC and a DPMS Panther Bull 20. Both have JP Enterprises Adjustable Triggers, Speed Hammers and Springs in them. So far I have had zero issues of any kind with either AR.
There is a better way of eliminating the Pre-Travel, and limiting Engagement on an AR Trigger that grinding or filing away metal. I have found a much better method is to every so slightly polish away the tool marks on the trigger and hammer engagement surfaces. Now I am talking about a very light polishing checking often with a magnifyer and stopping when the tool marks are gone.
This does a lot to make for a smoother trigger pull. The next step makes a world of difference in the overall feel of the trigger. With the Grip and Grip Screw removed, I use a 1/4" x 28 TPI x 1/4" long allan head set screw. I screw this set screw into the grip screw hole in the lower receiver. How I have been setting these up is with the Hammer Cocked and the Safety in the On Safe Position I simply screw the set screw in until I pushes the rear tail of the trigger up against the safety. Once the desired engagment is set I simply back the set screw back out, put some loktite on it and reset the engagement.
Do this test with your unmodified AR Single Stage Trigger. With the Hammer Cocked and the Safety in the On Safe Position pull the trigger until it stops against the safety. Note the amount of movement. This simple set screw will eliminate all of that movement and provide for a much better trigger feel if nothing else is done.
Larry