http://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-agency-weighed-spying-on-cars-at-gun-shows-1422398739
YUP
and this part
The Journal reported Monday that the DEA, an arm of the Justice Department, has been quietly building a database to monitor and store data about vehicles on major highways. Internal documents show the primary goal of the database is asset forfeiture, a controversial practice of seizing motorists’ possessions if police officers suspect they are criminal proceeds. Sometimes, those seizures take place without evidence of criminal wrongdoing.
some threads a while back on the lic plate readers and stowing info myself and a few others who knew they were storing info making a db were called basically nuts and they dont do that and never will !!!
so to those who said that about us guess we were not the ones in the wrong after all ![]()
but you will come back and say well the goal is asset forfeiture and of course they SAY that is there primary goal but of course other things that come along are just fine and again if you believe our gov anymore !!
California has been at this for quite some time with Arizona and Nevada gun shows:
http://www.calgunlawyers.com/gun-owner-tip-1-border-buys/
http://www.calgunlaws.com/police-attend-out-of-state-gun-shows-to-prosecute-californians/
In terms of oppressing its citizens, California is a few years ahead of the federal government. Federally, we’ve had 6 years of Obama, whereas California has had nearly 30 years of Obama style policies and governments. So glad I don’t live there anymore.
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And to add insult to injury, in most cases you PAY to park at gun shows.
I would not buy a gun in a gun show parking lot. No need to worry.
Perhaps you have misunderstood the principle.
Here in VA we have to pay an annual “personal property tax” on our cars. Commissioners of the Revenue will frequently do what you are describing, to ID cars whose owners are delinquent on their tax bills. Nothing like coming out of Walmart to find your shit booted because you didn’t pay your taxes.
I’m not defending it, in fact it infuriates the Hell out of me.
But there are so many other ways to track your gun purchases and firearms-related activity that really this is just one more brick in the wall. If you’ve ever bought a gun on a 4473 (especially the new electronic form), or if you’ve ever used a credit card for a firearms-related purchase, then they already know you. Don’t be naïve enough to think any records are actually “destroyed”.
Add registering ones self via a concealed carry permit to the list as well; that is straight up gun owner registration right there.
But who cares about any of this; as we all know if you don’t have anything to hide you have nothing to worry about right?:rolleyes:
It’s not like the NSA, FBI or any local law enforcement has ever been shown to violate the constitution or your rights with these tools.
They don’t collect data to keep it or use it in any way other than to keep you “safe”.
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All those wacky conspiracy theories you heard as a kid are all really happening now.
I’m hip. I used to listen to shows like Alex Jones to get a good laugh. Now if I happen to be bored enough to tune in he sounds halfway reasonable.
There was LE all over at the last gunshow I was at in Spokane. No one I know on the legal forums wants to deal with that shit, and for the first show of the year, there was barely any vendors compared to what there usually is. With the new laws in Washington, it seems like North Idaho is going to reap all of the benefits of that fallout. The gunshow here last week was twice as big as it usually is with more booths.
You’re seeing more of this with Repo companies. The last Tulsa state fair the news did a story on multiple missing vehicles from the fair parking. I guessed pretty quickly they were likely repos happening and sure enough I was right. Tulsa county SO didn’t even realize the companies had the technology either I don’t believe.
Send in the first team to scan and log positions then the second team tows them away. Really pretty ingenious. Unless, of course, you’re not making your car payments.
Oh I’m so glad that the WSJ included this, as I was reading the article I couldn’t help but to think of Eric Holder giving arms to Mexican NARCOs with the hopes of creating a crisis in which they could justify more gun control.
The 2009 email was written around the time the ATF was conducting an ill-fated and poorly managed gun-trafficking investigation in Phoenix called Fast and Furious. Agents allowed sales of about 2,000 guns, mostly variants of AK-47 rifles, to suspected smugglers. The aim was to prosecute top traffickers, but many of the firearms have turned up at crime scenes in Mexico and the U.S., and hundreds more are unaccounted for. The program ended up badly embarrassing the agency and led to a long-running fight between House Republicans and Attorney General Eric Holder .
I always like to get people going on why do they need to know what gun I’m buying if the background check is on me…of course it’s also to check if the gun is stolen but it gets some people to foaming at the mouth.