my buddy has what he says is an old 92fs but in 40. cal. my question is, did beretta ever make a 92 fs in 40. or where they ONLY ever in 9mm and its a 94fs? he bought it used and has had it for 10 years, so it could b that old. thanks for any help on this guys
I’m no expert on Berettas but I thought:
92 series = 9mm
96 series = 40S&W
im not sure either but when i looked on their website i found that the 40s where called 94fs’
This is correct. There were some kits with a 92FS and a 96 upper (barrel and slide) - and then the gun could work with both.
Also - the 90-Two comes in 9mm and 40 cal… It’s just called “90-Two” for either calber.
And, the new 92A1 is 9mm. I see the 40 version listed as BOTH the 96A1 and 92A1 in 40 cal. So, as I am not into 40, I have not paid much attention to the 40 cal versions of the new 92A1.
he is sure its a 92 and has always called it that so it could be and A1 but we will have to look at it, thanks guys ![]()
And what website would that be for said “94fs”?
I’m looking at BerettaUSA’s online site:
http://www.berettausa.com/shop-by-department/firearms/handguns/full-size/
ok you cought me :agree: i dont remember where i read it, but i read it somewhere if it was not on thier website then i have no idea. lol it was quite a while ago (a year or better)
Well, the A1’s just came out this past summer. It is a new design
the 92fs is the civilian model of the m9 made in 9mm. the 92a1 is the civilian model of the m9a1 newly released to our marine corp to replace the m9 of years past. this new model features a under barrel rail used to attach tac lights or red dots.
the 90-two is made in 40 s and w as well as the 96 series. and yes the 92 and 96 series pistol slides, i believe, are interchangable. i have never seen a 92 series, m9 variant, made in anything but 9mm.
i myself own a 92fs and did a bunch of research on it before i made my purchase (as i do with all my firearms). ultimatly if its good enough for our troops overseas then its good enough for me. it has served them and i very well.
In the 92 platform, the .40 beat the gun pretty bad–rapid wear.
Besides the Beretta 90-Two, .40 S&W Berettas are the 96 series. Just because someone calls it a 92FS in .40 or a company sells them as a 92 doesn’t make it so. Beretta sold their .40 S&Ws as the 96. That doesn’t preclude an individual from dropping a .40 S&W barrel into a 9mm pistol, but I imagine it is a little more complex than that. I’ve never heard of a Beretta 94FS, probably because no such beast exists. The best way to get to the bottom of this is to read the right side of the slide. It will say 96 or 92, plus a caliber designation. I bet the slide is going to say 92 and 9mm, which means someone dropped a .40 S&W barrel in, or it will say 96 and .40.
That’s not quite true. The M9A1 can be bought commercially as well. I have 2 of them. The 92A1 is a completely new design. It has a rail, but they basically took the improvements of the 90-Two and put it into a more “regular” looking 92 frame that could use normal Beretta 92 grips.
yes you are right excuse me. the 92fs is the more widely made model of the military designated m9. beretta usa does do limited runs of m9s and m9a1s all the time but the 92 and 92a1 is the more widely commercialized model.
and you are right. all the tactical combat features from the 90-two was taken and placed into the m9a1. from what i understand the marines wanted a more updated issue of the m9, since its been serviced for over 25 years they thought its about time. they took the rail and some new features and slapped them onto the new variant. im waiting for the us army to adapt the new model, but there are so many in service it may take a while. the coast caurd has adapted the sig p229 i believe as there standard sidearm but they do not designate any tac lights to be used with it even though it has a rail for one.
sorry went off on a tangent, but yes sir you are correct. thank you for pointing that out.
and i believ there would be more to it then swapping out a barrel. i would assume you would have to modify the magazine well also to accomidate 40 s&w ammunition. i could be wrong but it would make sense.
Actually, the internals of the 90-Two are only in the 92A1. The M9A1 is only a regular 92 with a rail and checkering (and a beveled magwel). It even has a standard 92FS slide.
I think you may still be getting the M9A1 and the 92A1 mixed up. The 92A1 has the frame buffer and a dovetailed slide. The trigger guard is also cuved. And, the slide has been redesigned. It isn’t a brigadier slide, but it is a little beefier. Also, the guiderod is captive, and the frame and slide are not interchangeable with older models of the 92, like all the previous models of the 92FS pretty much have been…
No, the frame size is exactly the same between 9mm and 40. They only make 1 frame. But the ejector is different on the 40 (and then of course, the barrel is different.
I thought only the 96A1 had the “recoil buffer”? The reason being due to the more powerful .40S&W cartridge. I don’t see a need for the 92A1 to have it if the 92’s/M9’s have gotten by this long, and with great reliability.
Justin
Like Shipwreck said, the 92A1 also comes with the frame recoil buffer.
I have a 92A1 - it does have the buffer… I will admit that I notice about zero difference with it. But, my 92A1 is my most accurate of my 6 Berettas by just a tiny tad. Maybe the buffer IS helping. But in felt recoil, I can’t really tell.
The 9mm 90-Two has a buffer as well.
Interesting. I didn’t know that the 92A1 had the recoil buffer. But on the other hand, I never took a look at it except through the glass at the gun shop, and the pictures on Beretta’s website. I thought they used the same pic for the 92A1 and 96A1, lol. Thanks for clarifying.
Justin
There are no M9A1’s in my unit’s armory. All of our M9’s are old and beat to hell.
I’d certainly like to shoot one and see what I think firsthand.