Picked up a Benelli M4 for what I think is pretty reasonable considering what most shops charge in NY. It’s been a desired shot gun of mine for a bit but didn’t jump on it till now considering we may never be able to get one again. Anyway, I was wondering if I should get Benelli actual extension (81043) or Sure Cycles 2 shot extension tube? Both priced around the same. This is really the only upgrade I plan to do to the gun, at least for now. I’ve seen KZ tubes for cheap but I heard their made in China. What do you guys think ?
With any magazine capacity increase you need to be aware of 922r to be legal. I just put on a 7rd CarrierComp tube which also includes a follower and spring. Also put in a set of FFT forends. Those 3 pieces keep you legal.
CarrierComp tubes are titanium and very nice, but with a longer lead time than some. The wait is worth it in my opinion
So with that being said would the Sure Cycle be the better choice? It includes a follower and spring as well.
What makes no sense is that if I purchased model 11710 for example which has a 2 round extension I believe I’d be OK because I’m a LEO. Is it because I would make the modification myself ?
If LEO version comes with the 7rd tube from Benelli I think it is ok. If you make the modification it is subject to 922r. With that being said, since you are a LEO, I’m not sure if it applies. I think it would if it’s for a personal gun.
It’s a really dumb law. I think it came from a long time ago and was meant for AK’s, but unfortunately our M4 shotguns fall victim to it.
LEO or not I’d rather be safe than sorry. If I’m correct according to FFT I have to change out 3 parts. So I’m assuming a titanium magazine extension, follower, and spring is enough or do I need to, say change the Forend or stock as well as a 4th part?
The 7rd tube would count as 1 part, follower counts as 1 part. You would still need one more part from the list as the spring doesn’t count. The FFT forends are the most cost effective and look the same as oem, they typically require some slight fitting though. There are other USA made forends from Mesa, Briley, and others but they don’t have the oem look.
You could also have new fire control group components installed by Briley, but that is $300, then the cost of the tube so it does get expensive that route.
If your model has the collapsible stock, then you need to replace 4 parts.
It’s all just a pain in the a$$ and requires you to screw with a perfectly fine shotgun just to get an extra 2 rounds of which it should just come with. Lol
No problem. It’s confusing at first glance, but once you read it a few times you will figure out the path that matches your budget. I will say the CarrierComp tube is perfection. Their “DG” cerakote color matches the factory parkerizing perfectly, and their pricing is the best. They recently raised their prices but for 229 you get the tube, follower, and spring. Nobody else touches that price for a titanium tube.
Not what I’m saying. I’m saying 922r doesn’t make much sense if they sell an LE version of the M4 exclusive to law enforcement. As I said earlier the 11710 for example has the extension already on the magazine tube but requires the purchaser to be a LEO. That is all. I’m not saying LE deserve more privileges than anyone else. I’m saying 922r is very head scratching when it comes to this.
My research indicates the carrier comp is the way to go unless you have to have it ASAP, in which case, well, you might be disappointed regardless. The CC is lighter, less expensive, very well liked, and even though less expensive than the competition it includes a US made carrier and a good spring
You will still need a 3rd US made part to do this, if you read the FFT page it’s very clear about the ATF list of 20 parts that count, no other parts count towards the 922r, only those 20, and springs aren’t on the list
Of course they do.
Name one state that doesn’t have LEO and LEA exempt gun laws/restrictions.
Even when they don’t, they still do, when his state of NY first passed the “safe” act, there was no exemption for LEO…all the cops in the state basically were running around committing felonies…but they’re cops so they can do that because they have a ton of privileges (of things that should be Rights) the rest of us don’t.
I have a Bennell 2 shot extension like new for a M4. I had it own my M4 but went back to original configuration. It worked great! I really like the fast soft shooting M4. I shoot mostly Federal 00 flight control and went to cylinder choke from the stock Modified choke………wow ! Shoots Brennke Original 1 1/8 Oz slugs for bear protection very well also. I don’t know why they put a Modified choke in it ?
Geissele used to make a replacement hammer for the Benelli M4 that counted under 922r if you can find one (I installed one in mine). It’s silly to replace a perfectly good part but thems the rules…
The only thing I done to my M4 Shotgun was put a field stock on it and put a rail on it for RMR and put a good aluminum magazine follower in it and cylinder choke tube. That Federal Flight Control 00 is like shooting slugs at 20 yards very tight