Belloc, you're on your own with this Pope.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_COMMUNIST_CRUCIFIX?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-07-13-10-01-45

Let’s just assume that AP has this right.

The crucifix was a replica of one designed by a Jesuit priest, the Rev. Luis Espinal, who was tortured and killed by Bolivian paramilitary squads in 1980. Francis prayed at the site of Espinal’s assassination upon his arrival in Bolivia… Espinal was well-known among his fellow Jesuits as a proponent of the Marxist strain of liberation theology.

Sound like the only problem is they didn’t burn him at the stake.

During a news conference en route home to Rome on Sunday, Francis said he interpreted Morales’ gift through the prism of Espinal’s Marxist bent and viewed it as protest art.

I heard Moses was thinking of taking a similar stance on the Golden Calf- you know, people were hungry and Moses had been gone awhile and people started protesting. Moses decided to go a different way with it.

Galileo and JPII are up in heaven shaking their heads over the science and marxist stances. I’m Irish-Catholic and I demand a mulligan on this guy.

I still can’t come up with any evidence that this guy literally isn’t the anti-Christ. It would be ironic if this is the one thing that gets me sent to hell, but listening to this guy makes me less and less certain that the forever-retirement plan is real.

We already had the anti christ.

It’s hardly the first time a Pope has said controversial things.

He just looked like the anti-christ. Ratzinger was way closer to JPII on the whole east-west thing and helped keep the leftists in check.

Waitaminnit…

Most of the population is whining about being offended by everything under the sun, and we jump on the guy who isn’t offended? Read the article. He didn’t say he liked it, he didn’t say he supported it. He just said he wasn’t offended by the gift.

If you want controversial, check out some of the stuff that guy Jesus Christ spouted.

Look at the picture man, he’s got horns.

First, last, and only note from mods/staff on this thread:

At the first sign of personal attack or general motarditry, I’m locking this thread and infracting people.

Seriously.

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Motard
A alteration of the USMC term Moto. This word is used to describe some overbearing marine who extremely loud and obnoxious all the time. He is so motivated even in the shittiest situations that everyone wants to kick him in the teeth.

Had to look up Motard. Interestingly, my Google search for the action verb Motarditry yielded only 2 results. Two! Both from M4C. My linguistic playbook is enriched.

Glad I’m not the only one.

I’ve had two PM’s from members regarding my use of the term motard. Yes, FlyingHunter nailed it.

I had a Gunny that once referred to my squad as “my little band of drooling motards” and the term stuck in my head ever since.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.

Sorry for my motardishness, but if there is anyone who can get me back into the fold, it’s Belloc. I’m sure that he is crafting the perfect answer that will take me hours to understand.

This was presented during a state visit. It wasn’t like the pope walked up to a gift table and picked it. He is a head of state. Another head of state handed him something. If this is the straw that broke the camels back for you with this pope, your back was already broken. Personally I think he is the best thing that has happened to the church in a long time. As a lapsed, way lapsed - Jesuit educated Catholic, I hope he lives to be 120.

I believe that the prophecy of St. Malachi is correct and this pope is “Petrus Romanus”, or the defective pope at the end times.

Some people believe that a pope, probably the final one, will be the “False Prophet” predicted in Revelation, and I see circumstantial evidence that Francis is dancing with this prediction.

There have been a lot of good popes in history, and it’s unfortunate that true, dedicated, Bible-believing catholics have to endure this pope’s heresies, but it’s time to wake up if you haven’t already.

This.

Also this is what leaders in the public eye do. One leader gave another leader a gift. The pope did the right thing and accepted it as such…a gift. Nothing more, nothing less.

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This is like giving a Jew a Swastika, but with a nice little Star in the middle. Sorry about the whole trying to kill you off thing, hope we can get past that. Would a Confederate flag with MLKs picture on it appease the left?

If you don’t see the disconnect between now and JPII, I can’t help you.

Whether he’s petrus romanus or not, he’s definitely spouting some liberation theology communist drivel.

I can actually make this easy.

Communism is popular with poor people. When you have nothing, or almost nothing, the idea that we will take a little from those who have it and give it to you can be quite appealing. It’s like magic money that comes from somebody you don’t care about.

They don’t understand the reality that those who administer the money are the ones who actually get it and the lives of the poor people change very little in reality, and the only real difference is there are now more poor people since the government has taken the wealth they used to have.

Since most of South America is incredibly poor, these ideas are very popular with them and the Pope is simply pandering to that. This isn’t the first Pope to sell “dreams and rainbows” to the poor and then ask for a donation as a sign of their faith.

I dont like the guy, but his political beliefs make him the antichrist?

I would advise never doing that when it comes to the Catholic Church or the Pope.

Pope Francis given Hammer and Sickle “crucifix”, reacts “No está bien eso” … that’s not right.” http://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/07/pope-francis-given-hammer-and-sickle-crucifix-reacts-no-esta-bien-eso-thats-not-right/

When he said it wasn’t necessary to believe in God, that pretty much sent red flags flying in the breeze.