So I hear from talk radio that McCain is not being aggressive enough against Obama. So how do we make an impact in our circle of influence?
I started putting “Obama Facts” in the signature lines of my emails that state his agenda for our country and his beliefs. (nanny state, abortion, universal healthcare, higher-taxes, same-sex marraiage, etc)
I’m looking for other ideas and recommendations for getting the word out.
If “we” had any influence McCain would not be “our” candidate.
how true
Maybe, maybe not.
But with anyone other than McCain…you’ll have substantially less.
Why did Conservatism start insisting on ideologic purity? Certainly not the conservatism I grew up with.
+1
I am talking to everyone about Obama and his lovely ideas
Yeah, and until Reagan came along, how did “Republican Conservatism” work out? Ever hear of a Rockefeller or Blueblood Republican?
:rolleyes:
Conservatism doesn’t require ideological purity, but it does, at some point, require a conservative.
Well what do you call conservatism?
I called it fiscal discipline, low taxes, small government and strong national defense. I don’t see where McCain deviates from those CORE principles. Obama on the other hand is the antithesis of ALL of those principles.
Like liberals wished to create the perfect society “upon the hill” now conservatism has become about social issues and litmus tests and retards like Rick Santorum/Pat Toomey who want to create their own idealistic vision of what America should be. Sorry but I don’t drink Kool-Aid.
Republican Conservatism didn’t “work out” for so long because the country had swung so far left under FDR/LBJ that liberalism in turn needed to be discredited before Reagan could rise.
Unfortunately for you and I the present generation of republican “conservatives” have returned the favor.
Pragmatism (not ideologic purity) is the hallmark of the conservative. Ideology is the hallmark of liberalism.
A conservative utopia is as flawed as a liberal one. Ask Russell Kirk.
Now there’s something you’ll never hear on talk radio.
(Secret: That’s why it’s called talk radio and not think radio…)
I am not asking for Utopia, I’m asking you to carefully consider why - precisely, exactly why - you have decided to pull the lever for John McCain.
That’s all.
“Because I love my country MORE than I hate John McCain”
Thats why. I’m not happy about it, but thats the reality.
You’re assuming that I haven’t carefully considered it and that all we need to do is think about it some more and we’ll somehow arrive at a different conclusion. This would be a flawed assumption.
For me voting has nothing to do with party. I vote Republican because I can’t vote anything else. But I reject outright any notion that one party or the other holds a monopoly on intellectual truth.
First I vote for him because he’s the only politician I’ve ever heard (IN MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE) who often tells me what I don’t want to hear. This means I’ll believe him when he tells me something I do want to hear. This is something that GWB has utterly failed to grasp. I’m tired of being pandered to, lied to or treated like a complete moron who can’t see what’s going on. I’ve studied government, I’ve worked with government and I know the system. In my years in DC, he was the only one that was consistently bucking the system. He’s earned the label “maverick.”
Second he’s the only candidate that supports the core conservative principles of fiscal discipline, low takes, small government and a strong national defense. Something no Republican President (not even Reagan) could claim 100% success and something that so-called conservatives like Hastert and Bush demonstrably BETRAYED. I don’t want judicial activism, but that doesn’t mean I want government to make private/personal moral choices for me either.
Third and perhaps most importantly, he’s the only hope that conservative gun owners like you and me have against a veto-proof majority in both houses and the most liberal President since that peanut farmer we all know and “love.”
This isn’t McCain’s fault, you can blame all the so-called “conservative” idiots that call themselves the RNC.
It’s also not about hating John McCain.
Let me ask you this: when you love something or someone, do you only act with your intentions in the short-term with that person or thing? Or, if you truly love it/them, are you willing to make a hard decision that doesn’t feel good in the short-term but will bring a better long-term result?
Just sayin’
Don’t switch your brain off when you pull that lever.
I don’t recall saying that you hated McCain, but if I did, I shouldn’t have.
So you’re saying we’re better off with Obama in the long-run than McCain? Sorry but that requires a suspension of disbelief.
Not switching my brain off, but you’re pretending there’s a choice that isn’t there. That’s utopianism.
It’s also not about the Republican Party, per se.
Nahh, 95% of politicians tell me things that I don’t want to hear 95% of the time…
Agree.
Allow me to rephrase. He’s the only politician I’ve seen who refuses to pander to my (or his) personal interest.
Telling Michigan Auto Workers that their jobs “weren’t coming back” didn’t win him that state or any friends, but it was a hard truth.
That last line made me LOL.
Out loud.
Well played, sir.
Sure I’d even buy that…except that according to that standard there’s not a single conservative in the Republican party.
Sad but true.
There are plenty in the Party. The Party just considers them unelectable and won’t support them in any major runs. Because they would prefer to “reach out” to “the Middle”…
Because he is actually more Conservative in his record than people believe (according to people who have studied his record). He is more Conservative than Obama. And lastly, his record on voting for SCOTUS nominees is very good and he also gave a good speech on who he would nominate. People we would like.
I am a realist. There are only two viable candidates on the ballot this November. Neither is my ideal candidate, but there are not any others. Any idealistic utopian thinking is just that.
Chad