I wasnt sure which forum to hit but this will do as lots will see it I hope. Its come to my attention that UPS dealers/shipping places, are allowed their own private insurance carriers which if you read the fine print, do not insure guns, ammo, etc.This happened to me and luckily, the dealer has agreed to make up the difference from his pocket. The dealer/shipping place is telling me UPS only pays the first 100 bucks of a claim and their other carrier the rest.Well, their other carrier, PEC, claims they dont insure guns, so, something is crazy.Never heard of this before. I think we all need to raise cain towards UPS.They sure have no problem taking the money !!!
I quit using UPS because of the hassle the day shift clerk lady (big, mean and ugly) always gave me. Last rifle I shipped, I used FEDEX. Friendly people, no hassles, and they were cheaper. I’ll never go back to UPS.
DHL, does not insure “Gun Parts” either. When I worked at Troy, they lost and admitted they lost, a case of 45 Slings, and no reimbusment. And it was ensured for the full retial amount.
When I shipped a few guns to S&W UPS many years ago, pre the over night requirement, I thought that the first $100 was built into the shipping fee and extra insurance was, well extra.
John
seems to me that if you pay to insure and they accept payment they would be responsible to pay the insured amount. wonder how that would work in court. if they wont insure an item for its stated value then thay should refuse to accept same for shipment.
So if you ship from the main UPS hub and bypass the privately owned UPS stores, are firearms/accs insured?
If you ship a firearm via the UPS Hub (UPS owned) and insure it they’ll pay if it’s lost or damages. UPS doesn’t ship firearms from any of the UPS stores (privately owned).
If you package it up and send it anyway and call it ‘machine parts’ etc. and it’s lost or damaged it very likely won’t be covered. I worked at UPS from 2000-2004 as a driver and believe me UPS is really F’d up when it comes to firearms and they don’t understand their own rules.
That is “big,mean and ugly” 's ( see my above post) problem at my local HUB. She “KNOWS” it’s the law that both the shipper and reciever have to be FFL holders. She has worked there for 18 years, afterall:rolleyes: .Oh, and “no you can’t talk to my supervisor”.
I’m done with them.
Well, I still do not know that answer.I do know that my little town has no fedex or anything but ups so my Gunbroker days are over.Thats bs that firearms are somehow different than say a load of china plates or even a package of cowshit.You should have seen what they did to a nice old Mossberg, litterally broke it in half.Must have rammed it with a forklift.
If I am shipping a gun to someones FFL dealer do I have to have a copy of there license to show the clerk of UPS or Fedex? I would be shipping from Mississippi. In 2003 I shipped a STG-58 kit and an Imbel receiver to gun smith for a build and all the clerk said was as long as the address is to a license FFL that’s all they needed to know. Would this also apply to shipping a complete rifle?
Its not required by law but out of BS from the clerk , I would take it. Discrimination is rampant when it comes to guns, period.Thet make rules up as they go it seems.BEWARE
If you have an FFL, use the Post Office (that’s USPS not UPS :D)
Using common shippers (in my case FedEx and UPS) varies depending on where I am located from very good to very bad. The USPS is so far consistently good.
Where I’m at now, the UPS hub is terrible and FedEx is wonderful. In Texas it was the exact opposite.