I have been reading quite a bit about Bravo Company products (lowers, uppers, & BCGs), are they a new company? Are they a contractor for the DOD? I know that Colt, LMT, Bushmaster, Sabre make Milspec guns & parts. Who makes BCM uppers & lowers? I have not seen any complete guns being sold by Bravo Company; are they just a parts manufacturer? I also read in a previous post that many thought that their quality was on par w/ LMT. Is this based on real analysis, or just sales fluff?
I don’t think that you will find anyone here with a negative opinion of BCM. At least that was my experience when I was looking to get one.
Bushmaster is not “milspec.” I highly recommend you take a look at the chart put together by rob_s, as it compares all the major brands, including BCM: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA
I have looked at the chart many times, however Bushmaster did make a limited number of rifles for the DOD. So those rifles were milspec, or the contracting officer waved the technical requirements due to urgent and compelling need (Desert Storm). I still have not heard any good rational reasons why there is such a love fest for BCM on this site. I guess I’m baffled why someone would buy one of thier lowers or uppers for the same money that would get you a LMT or Sabre Defence poduct.
You mean other than the fact that it is completely mil-spec according to the chart and the fact that they have great customer service and that they aren’t much more expensive than a BM? I guess other than those there really isn’t any reason to get one…
So, who makes the BCM lower? LMT? LAR? CMT? They do not sell complete guns, but the charts shows that they do (Ave price). Are they a manufacturer of lowers & uppers like LMT & Sabre, or just a third party assembler?
Excellent customer service is important and LMT also has excellent customer service. I’m sure by the posts that some folks really like this company, which is great. However before I plunk down my hard earned dollars I wanted to know more about them.
I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that they manufacture their receivers, barrels, and bolts but I am not sure about the LPKs. As for a complete rifle- http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=16M_RIFLE&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3D%26searchstart%3D9%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html%26category%3DBCOM
Simply put they are boringly reliable.
Cant really speak upon the lpk but the bcg and barrel are top notch and both are individually tested and have to uphold certain requirements before leaving the factory.
One of the reasons they are so highly sought after is because of the affordability of their products. Why pay $1200 for an LMT or Colt when for $200 less you can get the exact same quality and performance.
The definition of milspec is very subjective now days due to illegitimate marketing campaigns over the years.
Have a BCM 16" Middy and love it.
Also, Paul and his group are stand up guys. I was seeking a donation of a regular charging handle for a rifle to benefit a deceased forum member’s family and he said he would send a BCG. That kind of action has put BCM into a company I happily buy from and advertise for.
A member on here? I have some parts laying around, let me know if I can help.
I can’t speak for Bushmaster’s nearly two decade old DOD contract, but I can tell you from first hand experience that BM does not deliver “mil-spec” weapons to the public. Keep doing some research and I think you will answer your own questions about BCM. I currently have a LMT and am very happy with it. If/when I get another M4 type carbine it will either be Colt or BCM (and I lean toward BCM).
That is completely false. BM has never supplied the US Military with M-4/M-16s.
The weapons were for export to the Georgian Army, which were captured and burned by the invading Russian Forces, not for the US Military. It may be the only account on record were Bushmaster was forced to build to a higher standard.
As others have said, there is plenty of information on the net about BCM. Rest assured that you have come to the right place for firearms advice. This is a no BS forum filled with people that use their weapons for serious purposes, which is why I come here for advice. If a company receives praise across the board on this forum it’s a clue that it is a good company to deal with and makes a top notch product.
I have a BCM midlength and an LMT M4 clone. If BCM would have offered what I wanted, when I wanted it, then I would have two BCMs. Not to say that there is anything wrong with my LMT, I just could have gotten more for less.
IMHO BCM has brought a new level of quality in both product and service to the firearms industry.
Cue members that shoot thousands of rounds per week through their BCMs to chime in 
I cant say enough about my BCM, fast shipping great service and a lifetime warranty.
Different forum, regional one for New England. Thank you for the offer. The rifle is done and is now being raffled off.
This should keep you busy for a while…https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=18946
Paul sources his components from military suppliers and good machine shops that will build to his exact specifications every time. For instance when he went searching for a supplier for gas keys he submitted requests for samples from multiple suppliers then the silly bastard went out and purchased a tool to check hardness. He found out of the many samples, only a couple of the manufacturers actually produced the product to the correct specified hardness. Yeah, there is a reason a lot of people like BCM gear, and that’s because it is top notch. It also carries a lifetime warranty, and it’s not cut rate bullshit like Bushmaster.
+1
I went with my BFH middy because I want my rifles to be as close as possible to the FN M16A4 and Colt M4 that I’ve been issued. My BCM, with the few obvious exceptions meets the TDP and then exceeds it with the cold hammer forged barrel and midlength gas system. You don’t buy a name with BCM, you buy quality at a good price…
THEY do not sell complete guns, but you can get a complete lower from them, and a complete upper from them. Voila, complete rifle.
Also, you can just get a complete rifle: http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=16M_RIFLE&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3Drifle%26searchstart%3D9%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html
Hence, their place on the chart. If you’ve researched enough to offhandedly tag it as a “love-fest,” line-of-sight thinking indicates that you would have also seen the reasons for it.
Their products meet or surpass the M4 TDP.
They make it in enough quantity that it’s available to the buyer.
They inform you ahead of time if it isn’t available.
They email you when it becomes available, if you sign up for that.
Their bottom-line pricing is pretty damned good.
They provide first-rate customer service in support of their products.
I don’t think that there are too many here that would tell you to absolutely buy BCM instead of LMT, as LMT is also noted as a manufacturer/seller of merit. That said, in terms of getting a no-shit hard-working gun for an excellent price-point, BCM and Daniel Defense seem to be the best answers for a first-time buyer who is trying to buy right the first time out of the box, or for somebody who wants to get a good base rifle with which to build the gun they truly want.
BCM is not The Way to go, but they’re a damned good option to exercise. I do not own a BCM rifle, but I’ve used their parts and have shot the BCM guns of others that do the same gig I do, and would have no problem whatsoever buying a BCM gun if my Noveske went tits-up.
But then, hopefully somebody would have a large bag standing by to catch the monkeys flying outta my ass, because it’s a good chance that the two events would happen on the same day.
I was wondering who the manufacturer was in that debacle. HK got caught with it’s pants down, too. H&K G36s were found in cases, too. F$#@kin’ lucky Russ!! That would never happen to me!