About ready to by my first M4. THe rateing for Noveske and BCM look about equal on “the Chart” quality-wise. What say you? Thanks…
I love my Noveske, it is my favorite rifle in my collection. But for the money BCM is hard to beat. Their quality is top notch, and you can use the money saved on an optic, ammo or training.
BCM high quality, reasonable pricing
Are you looking to go basic?
If so, here’s what I figured;
Noveske N4 Light Basic Upper $875
Noveske Lower $free
CMT LPK $60
mil-spec stock assembly $60
Total: $995
BCM Standard Mid-length Upper w/ CH & BCG $570
BCM Mid-length Hand guards $20
BCM Troy folding rear sight $140
BCM complete lower $350
Total: $1080
BCM BFH Mid-length Upper w/ CH & BCG $670
BCM Mid-length Hand guards $20
BCM Troy folding rear sight $140
BCM complete lower $350
Total: $1180
That being said, both have excellent reputation but you get a Cold Hammer Forged barrel and a better flash hider (Vortex or AAC Blackout 51t - your pick) with the Noveske.
With the free lower deal from Noveske right now, it is hard to beat them. Get what ever upper you want and them grab a lower build kit from Palmetto State Armory and you can have you a nice rifle for cheap.
Palmetto has a lower kit that has Magpul MOE Stock, MOE Grip, MOE Trigger Guard, CMMG parts kit and a mil-spec buffer tube assembly for $150.
Flip a coin, I doubt you could go wrong either way. Are you getting a Carbine length or Mid length rifle?
Mid length…
good choice on the middy
Do both, I built up my SBR with a BCM upper on a Nveske lower…
I agree, good choice going mid-length! I edited my above post for mid-length uppers & added the BCM BFH option.
Id personally only go Noveske if BCM and LaRue didn’t offer what I was looking for.
Noveske has a lot more stainless offerings than either of them, and a hammer forged CL 14.5".
I don’t like Noveske’s rail offerings so the last one I bought I bought it from a dealer who installed a DD rail.
He wouldn’t be getting rails either way and, in this case, the Noveske is cheaper.
Noveske all the way.
Just finished a bcm build and love it.
Hello everyone! Been working this dilemma in my own mind as well, and lurking here a lot lately, tons of info! Guess this is just as good a place as any to start posting.
Looks to me like you will pay a little more for a Noveske complete rifle vs buying a complete BCM lower and BCM upper and putting them together yourself. (Most likely this can be accounted for with the federal tax), once you get all the options the same. They look to be pretty darn equal in quality to me as well, can’t go wrong, this is what is called a “win/win” decision. I really want one of each, and will likely sell some older ARs to fund this.
As for buying the Noveske upper, and building the free lower, that is an awesome idea, and I am considering it myself, but for someone who has never done this, and buying a rather inexpensive LPK, I would have to say that is NOT equivalent to a factory built rifle. Nothing wrong with this, but unless you spend the money to buy top quality parts, and are experienced at assembling them, I don’t think its fair to say its “cheaper.”
Thanks guys, looking forward to spending lots of time here!
Noveske uses Stag LPKs, which can be purchased for $60 on GB for someone who wants a DYI build. There’s virtually nothing you CAN screw up on the lower receiver, except for maybe fitting the trigger.
As for everything else, if you didn’t break or damage it installing it and it works afterwards, then it was installed correctly (this only goes for lowers and LPKs - the upper is a different story). That’s the beauty of AR’s.
I am building one too…
BCM Mid-length, Std Handguards, Troy BUIS and a Spikes complete lower with Magpul ACS Stock.
My total will be $1135.28 (includes all shipping, tax and I will personally p/u the lower at Spikes)
They have BCM rifles that have seen 26k rounds with bolt replacement at 16k and 26k, and a cleaning at 26k rounds. Still shooting .5" groups at 50 yards with non hammer forge barrels.
the free lowers are blems and production errors so up to you if you want a rifle to have cosmetics.
Is flip a coin an okay recommendation. I would give a slight edge to the Noveske barrel and FH… BCM has really made a name for themselves in a short period of time…
really? care to prove that? The free blemished lower is just that…it has a blem somewhere which is cosmetic only. According to others on this forum who received one of these free lowers the blemish is really hard to find. However, I would love to see your prove that Noveske ships Lower Receivers with Production Errors. I’ll get mine on thursday and will report the blemish with pics.
to me blemishes and errors on the finish are just that, production errors