BCM Middy - Couple Q's

Hey guys,

I just sold my SP6920 upper and looking to buy a middy based on all of the great reviews I’ve heard. This will be my one, all purpose AR. My buddy is also interested as he wants the same but will be using it as a patrol rifle on duty. Mine will be going on a Sendra pre-ban lower, his a M&P lower. I’m looking at a BCM Recce 16 with a DD Lite 12" rail. Do you guys recommend this? I have a few q’s about it…

  1. Should I go 16" or 14.5 with pinned muzzle device? Is the pinned way “undoable”?
  2. Other than the upper receiver group, I need a BCG and charging handle correct?
  3. Is this a good choice for a patrol rifle on duty?
  4. Any other things I should know… will be my first middy.

Thanks in advance!

I’d go 16 inch. It’s more forgiving with various ammo.

I’ve shot them both, and the 16 is more forgiving. The 14.5 will shoot smoother, but when it comes to patrol reliability, I’d run the 16.

Actually… I’d have kept the 6920 upper if I couldn’t use an SBR.

personally, i would never buy a 14.5 with perm fh. too much headache for little savings in length.

16" for the reasons markm posted.

  1. Other than the upper receiver group, I need a BCG and charging handle correct?

Yep. A standard BCM BCG and Gunfighter CH (in whatever size you prefer) are what I recommend.

  1. Is this a good choice for a patrol rifle on duty?

Sounds good to me. Great accuracy, light rail, although I’m not sure how the heavier “intent” of the Recce mindset in barrel choice would come into play if carried for extended time periods, like patrol rifles generally are.

  1. Any other things I should know… will be my first middy.

I like them (I’m on my fourth) and find them to have the shootability of a 20" without the awkwardness.

Agree with all of the above. The 14.5" with pinned device is a great niche gun, but not a good choice for a first/only gun IMO.

I have, and have had, both and the 16" mid is, as markm says, more forgiving of shit ammo, dirt, lube schedules, etc. than the 14.5" mid.

Thanks for the replies guys. I’ll go with a 16". I wanted to try the middy thing and its something to feed my hobby as well lol. Though its not a Colt, isn’t BCM pretty damn close? Its got all of the items on “the chart” so I’m curious as to why “kept the colt” comment. Are BCMs used in the military at all, besides being used in LEO? I thought doing some searching that these BCMs are pretty highly regarded… I’m still open for suggestions so I’m not sworn on the BCM yet.

I believe the 16" Recce and middy from the BCM line up are the same. I’m going to prob get the BFH (or cold forged barrel option) or the standard barrel, so I believe they are the same weight wise. You can find the same upper if you search under “recce” or “mid length” builds.

bumpity

Yes, BCM is highly regarded…

However, in your position, since you can’t have an SBR, I’m not sure that you gained anything by selling your Colt upper.

Now that your upper is gone, you may as well buy whatever Bravo Company upper suits your fancy. Personally, I am partial the the BFH 16 inch, lightweight mid-length uppers…

Thanks. Ya, I realize a Colt is a Colt… but I wanted to get into a middy with a full rail. No logical reason other than I want to feed the addiciton :wink:

I have the same 16" upper you’re considering and the comments above are spot on. Add BCM BCG and Gunfighter CH and you’re GTG. If you want a rail, the DD Lite is a solid choice. The only downside is the lack of integrated QD sockets, if desired. You could save some coin with something like a MOE handguard, but that’s your call.

I sold my RRA ET AR upper and used the cash to get a BCM BFH LW 16 midlength and honestly I couldn’t be happier. Great products as usual from BCM. Selling the Colt upper is something I would not have done, but its a matter of personal taste I suppose. Have fun and good luck with your purchase.

Ya, if Colt made a middy, I might consider that… but last I checked they don’t. So looks like BCM is way to go.

wow it seems like you guys kinda shit on 14.5. I didn’t realize they had such a bad wrap? Is there a reason other then it’s not forgiving with crap ammo? lethal I was wondering what would be the problem with a perm flash hider? If you get a good one other then not being able to remove it or change it why is it so bad? Don’t mean to hijack just trying to get more input out of the answers posted.

St.Michael, you’re worrying about something that doesn’t matter.

Sounds like you have an awesome upper in your future.

1) Should I go 16" or 14.5 with pinned muzzle device? Is the pinned way “undoable”?

Just do 16, it may not look as “tacticool” but it’s more tactical to be able to do what you want with your muzzle device. It is notable that 14.5 is a bit smoother, though. I actually would want to do a 14.5 myself but I’d feel at a loss with a pinned ordeal.

2) Other than the upper receiver group, I need a BCG and charging handle correct?

On a BCM, yes. Look into the BCM gunfighter, it actually is really nice.

3) Is this a good choice for a patrol rifle on duty?

Yes, both a 14.5 and 16 will suffice and preform very well, especially a BCM.

4) Any other things I should know… will be my first middy.

Slings often go un-thought of. It’s a great idea to meditate your options there.

I run a single point ASAP, when and if I ever need a sling anyways… Thanks for the responses.

As a general question, have any of these mid lengths gone on full auto or select fire set ups for SWAT or military units? If so, how do they handle? I know the Colt 6920 Gov’t profile barrels are the same as the M4s they make. Just curious…

The 14.5 is not as unreliable as some make it out to be. It all depends in the gun. I’ve shot over 500 rounds of Wolf without a hitch in my 14.5, and I’m using an H buffer. A H2 or 3 may have short stroke problems.

Many people worry that they may want to change out muzzle devices, and opt not to perm for this reason. I ONLY use A2’s, and have no desire for a comp or other muzzle device, so mine is permed.

What was the problem with the 6920?

BCM is top tier quality.