Bailout fails: Jeeps to be made in China

For all those people who think that they can impose American type OSHA rules and regulations on other countries, they better have another thought coming. You can thank bleeding heart liberals for all the ridiculous rules and regulations we have. You can also thank liberals for the 40 hr work week. America would be more competitive in the real world if we worked a 60 hr or more work week. Simple as that.

As far as people volunteering to cut their wages? I can’t speak for others, but that’s not too applicable to me as a self-employed business owner. I simply get what I can get from my customers. Yes, I know if they made less, they’d probably be able to pay me less. So yes. That’s why I call it a bitter pill we will all have to swallow.

I think most of us realize that the next generation in America is going to have a lower standard of living than the current generation. Eventually, all this crushing debt and living over our earnings is going to come crashing down on all of us.

Yeah, I miss slavery too… Seriously, we’re not losing out to China because we don’t work as many hours as they do. We’re losing manufacturing jobs to China because our wages are higher. We have costs that we can’t cheat or steal our way out of paying. Besides, China needs to have nets to catch jumpers at their factories. Do we really want to emulate their awesome working conditions?

Competing with China in how they do business is nothing more than a race to the bottom.

So says you. Check your founding documents on tariffs…

I wasn’t aware that our country’s founding documents contained economic treatises.

My 2011 Liberty was built in Toledo. The engine came from Detroit (Mack Ave plant), the transfer case from Buffalo NY, and the transmission from Kokomo Indiana.

Also, stop bitching about the bailout. It was a loan, not a bailout. And it’s been paid back in full by Chrysler/Fiat. GM’s has not. Actually, Chrysler has been doing so well the past couple years that they are now propping up Fiat, who have been in the red for several quarters. Sergio Marchionne has even floated the idea of moving Fiats’ HQ to America, because the Italian government is so tax-happy.

If they are planning on making Chinese Jeeps to sell to Chinese buyers, then good on them. If they try selling them over here, I won’t buy one.

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Woohoo cheap jeeps!

Thanks obama

I’m going to repost this again, since no one other than Lebowski even acknowledged kmrtnsn’s posts.

Do you think they will come down in price? Or go up due to shipping costs of an “Import” vehicle?

I ve been wondering that from the beginning of the thread.

They are gonna be build by employees that get paid HALF and work twice as much…with the money saved…Chrysler will make a KILLING of the US even if they decide to keep the same ridiculous pricetag for a box with wheels.

I love Jeep, I want a 4-door Wrangler more than LIFE itself, The price is ridiculous, and worse…Rubicon and Wrangler hold value like nothing else

Per the articles posted earlier, I don’t think they will be strictly import now. DC is opening plants overseas to augment and support increased business in the US.

Now that they have USB integration, blue tooth, etc. they’re much easier to use as daily drivers.

But the prices are nuts…$38-40 are the stickers on Rubi Unlimited’s now. As you noted, it’s easier to stomach though when the resale is so high (the CR-V and Wrangler have been battling between #1/#2 on resale for the past couple years). But with all the aftermarket support, it’s hard not to spend more money on em. Now that I’ve sleeved the axles and have gears…mine desperately needs 35s…and tires ain’t cheap!

Nobody actually reads a whole thread… sigh.

In order for a country to survive well, it HAS to have MORE export, than IMPORT. This is why we USED to have high IMPORT taxes (Tariffs) as we did when we were a more prosperous nation. Now we have things like NAFTA, this along with LOW TARIFFS, have sunk us to our knees. And we are not done sinking our own nation with these actions. We have become a want what we want, and don’t give a damn were it came from, or how it was made, just give it to me and do it now. This is just were the supper wealthy want us, money is power, and they will do ANYTHING for power over people. People are proving to be SHEOPLE and they are going to take advantage of the SHEOPLE.

Just because you think that “Importing” creates more jobs, stop and think about the actual # of jobs lost to import, it’s not just the manufacturing, it is also the ones making the parts to keep the equipment to dig the ore, the people to make the ore turn into steel, the people/rigs to transport the ore/metal, the outside sources that make the diff parts that are generically produced for ALL U.S. auto’s, the need for transportation within our borders to get these products across our nation, the list goes a lot farther and deeper. You should get a grasp on a start to what we loose every time we go import instead of “In-house”. Look at the WHOLE picture, not just what you want to see, or some damn “Politician”, “Business Man” wants you to see, to further “Their” agenda, think about yourself, your children, your grandchildren, and your fellow U.S. citizen.

We won’t see anything for at least 5 years, more than likely if this actually goes through. I would have to say that if there are sub 20k honda civics out there, so I imagine so.

Toyota rav4s, tacomas and 4 runners are a much better value than Jeeps, due to the cost of United Auto Workers labour.

Slappin me a Made in 'Merica! sticker on my 2k Sport and the value will go up 2 grand now :smiley:

Are they?

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/autos/1111/gallery.best_resale_value_cars/index.htm

http://blog.chryslerllc.com/entry/1238/blog.do;jsessionid=41A04E0B0849BF5CEF89EC9AC8FC22E0?p=entry&id=1238

http://www.kbb.com/new-cars/best-resale-value-awards/best-resale-top-10-cars/

Dont mistake websites posts or reviews for actual quality rating. Consider it a form of the media. Who do you think funds some of these websites? Magazines like car and driver have a history of backing US made vehicles over any other regardless of actual facts.

Oh, my…

You know, I sorta trust my personal experience a bit more than a bunch of links on the internet, and yes, I would MUCH rather have a Toyota (any Toyota) over a Jeep.

This photo was taken in June of 2011. Since that time, the only maintenance on that truck has been oil changes, new tires, bushings in the front end, and…more oil changes.

Many people stick to the mantra that domestic cars are poorly manufactured, which originated in the 90’s and early 2000’s.

It’s not the same any more. Whats even worse, is that despite domestic mfg.'s making much better cars now, people refuse to buy them because of the reputation they got 10-15 years ago, not even giving them a chance despite plenty of positive reviews, both from individual owners, car magazines, car reviewers, and others.

So I have a question…

Is this a matter of Jeeps being built in China for the Asian market or is this a matter of all (or most) production being moved to China?

That is simply untrue.

I have experience with late model US made vehicles, and they were just that bad…

Ran a 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 for a while - that thing drank gas like there was no tomorrow, and by the time it had 53 or 54 thousand miles on it, the transmission was already acting up. Ran a 2010 Chevy 1500 - that thing was better on gas, but it was still a piece of junk.

Been fighting with an '03 Ford F350 all summer, and can’t get it to run right…

Just had a major hassle with a fairly late model Dodge 3500 - less than 75k on it, and the engine blew up.

Just a couple weeks ago had another major hassle with another Dodge 3500 blowing up, and strewing parts all over the road…

Sorry, but I just don’t like fighting with my vehicles to keep them running, so I choose Honda/Toyota…