I don’t see a thread about this gun yet so here goes
Think B&T will bring it to the US market like they did with the TP9? Canadians are gonna be able to have it soon. I realize pistol caliber SMGs are a little passe these days and most military and police are moving to 5.56 carbines but I think it looks pretty rad anyway. I’d love to have one, it tickles my fancy.
Cool looking gun, but I’m not sure of a market for it in the U.S.
looks cool. yeah an AR or some such is probably a better choice but depending on price I would consider getting one just for fun.
I will definitely buy one if they become available. Very cool design.
Looks similar to the HK UMP.
Are they gonna make one .40.
I hope its more reliable than the TP9 SBR that I fired a couple years ago. That thing needed to be soaked in lube or it would choke repeatedly. Looks like a (possibly) semi-affordable way for guys to get into a modern polymer framed 9mm carbine. The UMP 9mm conversions are prohibitivlely expensive and the CX4 is just…eh.
TP9’s felt goofy. This daddy likes the looks of. :dirol: Now that I have my ddm4v7 I have been wanting a 9 SMGish weapon to sbr. Sadly most available are goofy or ar HK clones and don’t run well.
Hey boys lookey what I found here!!!
http://www.bt-ag.ch/en/manufacturing/firearms/apc_carbine.php?navid=16
http://www.bt-ag.ch/en/manufacturing/firearms/apc_carbine.php?pid=720
PDF has more detailed pictures look especially at the barrel attachment method.
http://www.bt-ag.ch/pdf/DWJ_10_2011.pdf
My TP9 is 100% with all ammo I’ve put through it. Even 100% with my B&T suppressor.
With the B&T TP9 I have always heard hit or miss similar to what I always hear with Bushmaster stuff, hit or miss.
The few guys I talked to that had or used to have TP9 we’re a mix of always ran perfectly or was a jam-o-matic.
I really hope they can get these here non-neutered, non-sporterized, “cough” HK USC.
Certainly looks interesting. Is there actual talk of it coming to market in the US, or is this more of a “wouldn’t it be nice” type thing?
Jeez, the mag well is nearly large enough for a rifle cartridge, and the frame certainly looks like it can accommodate it.
I’d be interested if it was.
it does look like it was left intentionally big. =P we can hope
Something is very wrong with something (either gun or ammo). We got more than a few TP9 SBRs and have run them bone dry without issue on several occasions.
Just to follow up on this thread I heard that DSA is looking to import the APC in “pistol form” to the USA.
It will be much more expensive than the TP9 though.
So this means I guess a version with a dinky little buttpaddy thing in the rear and just SBR and buy Folding stock.
Not sure about this part you SBR NFA Guys will know more about SBRing a pistol.
That would be nice if they imported it and possibly sbr it as a DSA option as well. I think I’d rather have this than a TP9 but it’s neat that it can accept the same mags as well.
I will get one if its sold here and Swiss made. I have the TP9 and it works flawlessly.
300BLK anyone?
I’d bite, depending on the price.