auto bolt bounce on shorties

I think you might need a reminder of the rules, which are:

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No need to get personal, stick to the facts, we’re aren’t debating why I’m a moderator. Your elitist attitude isn’t doing much for you here. FYI: Issued weapons are typically made for the masses and typically by the lowest bidder. Not made for ‘you’ personally.

You missed what I said. Less moving mass equals less felt recoil, deal with it. Yes my M1 is a HK import too (welcome to the club).
I also fired 3 VERY early ones many times at Quantico Firepower Div. from 1986-1991 with my dad, LtCol D. Lutz USMCR and Maj. J.Muth III USMCR.

I’m following rule #5 which is:

5) Industry Disclosure – If you are an industry manufacturer/dealer or employed by one you must disclose this relationship through your screen name or signature line. Anonymous industry trolling will not be allowed.

My signature line has my affilation in the gun business and my certifications to follow rule no. 5 and to show some credibility. I could have taken 3 job offers working overseas as an armorer in the last 2 yrs and done all of that as well. My personal married life takes priority so I chose not to take the job offers. My married life is more important to me than money. YMMV.

Momentum?
…am I wrong?

You can argue all you want. Newton was right, here’s the reminder:

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III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
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Your assumption of 3 gun rifles is wrong. I shoot 3gun, have a race rifle and don’t use an adjustable gas block, nor reduced power ammo, nor a longer gas tubes (whatever that means) yet my rifle recoils like a Ruger 10/22 so I guess it does this by FM technology or something (FM=frickin’ magic :wink: ).

I’ll check with Larry Vickers (the 416 father) and a 2 other people (again) who I know are issued the 416s. From the 2 people I know issued them, both say that they run noticeably slower than 10.5" M16s/MK18s and are easier to keep rounds on target on auto.

I don’t know who’s classes you’ve gone to but gas port size is always proportional to barrel length. A factory 10.5" barrel has a different size gas port size than a 11.5", 12.5", 13.7", 14.5", 16", 18", 20" and 24" barrel. A 10.5" and 11.5" will cycle differently, the gas port is different to make the gun reliable and not make the 10.5" cycle at the same rate as the 11.5", 12.5", 13.7", 14.5", 16" and 20" &24" ARs/M16s.

In my experience (32yrs shooting) and 20yrs owning ARs I’ve seen some gas port erosion is as little as 5K rounds in 10"-16" ARs firing real ammo, so your statement is illogical following the rules of logic. (not my rules, Google: deductive reasoning).

Err…it SHOULD be different. Though some makers don’t make them different and they have some problems keeping the shorter lengths running well. :wink:

Wasn’t much different but…it’s now different :stuck_out_tongue:

Wow… this has certainly degenerated into a petty contrarian example de force. Is it possible somehow individuals not read the totality of statements, feel butt hurt, and lash out?

I suppose we could play the pick apart game, but to paraphrase someone else; “arguing on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics… you’re still retarded”.

Off to go jam mags for my issued 416, thanks all you taxpayers for picking up the bill.

I have no intention of furthering this thread of rambling poo, or likely the site. Have the best day ever!

No hard feelings. You basically understand roughly 1/2 of whats going on when you pull the trigger. I’m moving this to trash as this whole thread that you started isn’t productive to the forum and your attitude is in poor taste and not in the spirit of M4Carbine.net, this isn’t TOS. You’ve mistaken my kindness for weakness.