Anyone know who makes ATI’s BCG’s, they are selling on sale for $69.99 and was thinking they would be good spares for classes and such.
Opinions?
ATI M16 Complete Chrome Lined Bolt Carrier Group with Carpenter 158 Bolt
MFG# ATIAR15
BCG Carrier Made from 8620
Carrier is Chrome Lined.
Steel Bolt Made from Carpenter 158 Steel
Made in USA
There is no way that thing is made to spec unless they are so overstocked that they will take a loss.
not that i always believe that you get what you pay for, but the fact that they are selling a complete BCG for less than just a bolt from BCM has my mind wondering about the quality.
now, on the other hand i think that it might be good to have a couple and flip at the next panic, but then i think that i would rather have something i would use and trust for myself if another panic fails to come along.
YMMV
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Mirrors my thoughts exactly. I don’t buy stuff, even if I think it might be stuff I would consider flipping, unless it is stuff that I would personally use, because it would be back up at some point. And for BCGs, I saw BCM BCGs selling at $300-500 during the last panic.
Claims its “Made in USA”
For that price I don’t think you can go wrong for your intended use.
Ok, so you buy it and then it takes a shit. Now add the cost of a replacement BCG to this and you will have your overall price.
If it seems too good to be true…
This ^
I guess you could buy a stack of these and just throw them in the trash if they break, but you could just buy one GOOD BCG and an extra bolt and likely be ahead of the game.
At the end of the day its your money though, spend it how you choose.
News Article:
http://roc.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110213/NEWS01/102130348/Rochester-s-links-global-arms-deal
Criminal Complaint:
http://roc.democratandchronicle.com/assets/pdf/A2169548127.PDF
ATI and another DiChario-owned company at the same site, AmChar Wholesale, did portray the companies as loose with their inventory of weapons. Court documents also suggest that an intermediary for ATI was purposefully blind to the fact that the magazines were manufactured in China, which makes them illegal for importation into the United States.
Now…ahem. You owe me a beer, and Paul Buffoni some money for a BCG.
You’re welcome.
; )
P.S. These are the types of dudes ATI deals with:
A recent WikiLeaks release of confidential U.S. State Department cables cited an attempted sale to Libya of 130,000 Kalashnikov rifles by Hyde’s company, York Guns.
I would save your money, there are better options out there.
I had no more interest in this ATI BCG then a cheap tool box spare should a bolt break while at a class or the range, never was intended for a serious use role hence the questions if the item was a POS or could handle some light duty back up use as a spare.
I, too, have always wanted two break two bolts in quick succession. Thanks for for finding me a way to do so under $70.
Sarcasm aside, why would you ever buy a spare that’s crappier quality than the thing it’s replacing? Light duty? What is that, the second half of a carbine course so intensive that it broke a bolt? A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link. Change the way you think about your weapon and it’s components, would be my advice.
Its obviously not going to be a high-quality part. Not sure if it matters that they state the bolt is C158 and carrier is 8620.
I wouldn’t buy it, but i’m sure someone on a tight budget (or clueless) will purchase them, shoot 100rds a month, and be ok.
They’re going to sell all that they have in their inventory. The upside is all of the “unreliable” ARs with these ATI BCGs in them that will flood the market in a year or two. I’ll be buying just to part em out.
FYI, in this day and age, you can go on Alibaba and find “mil spec” BCG’s.
I would only buy a BCG from a known source. If you can’t afford it, 1) save more money, and/or 2) don’t spend as much money on other non-critical components of your weapon.
I needed a couple of spare parts bolts and felt like wasting a little money. I don’t normally buy crap, but took a lark on two of these, as spares for range guns. For the price and purpose I will tolerate it when they fail. (If I ever need them)
Since I actually bought a couple of them I thought I would post some high resolution pictures of them for you guys. Someone might see something in these pictures that gives them more of a clue. I don’t know if they’re C158 or not but they seem ok.
Coming from a guy who watches a machine make bolts and carriers all day… I don’t see how it’s possible to make these, and sell them for that amount of $$$$. That’s not even hourly machine rate on a spindle in our shop.
Ahem…