Atf to have rules on pistol braces aug ‘22

Well we’ve been expecting it and it looks like it’s coming this summer. I didn’t see anything else about it here through a cursory search outside of the locked thread.

“The Department of Justice is planning to propose to amend the regulations of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to set forth factors considered when evaluating firearms with an attached stabilizing brace to determine whether they are considered firearms under the National Firearms Act and/or the Gun Control Act. “

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-federal-register-publishes-schedule-for-atfs-firearm-silencer-and-pistol-brace-final-regulations/

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They wont be able to enforce it. Look at how the bump stock ban worked out…

No, they aren’t going to comb through credit card receipts for a brace. What they WILL do is add the charge on if you use a braced pistol in a sd situation out to nail you if you get caught for something else. And rely on Karens at gun ranges or social media to call them and turning in others with the evil new scary braces.

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So what do you propose people do since you seem to know what will happen?

It’s a good thing I sold all my braces and 80% lowers. [emoji6]

Didn’t they already write a letter/statement that the braces are legal and the decision was final?

The decision was final until it needs revisiting because reasons and stuff.

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Take shall not be infringed literally.
Non compliance is the answer for almost anything that limits freedom.
Free people do not require permission and thats across the board, not just gun related. Its a mentality worth adopting and applying wisely.
Defending yourself is not a right someone gives you permission to do or not to do. You carry a gun not because its allowed as if you’re a child.
Too many Americans have given up freedom and become rule nazis.

The right to justly acquire effective means of defending oneself and others does not come from any body politic or corporate entity. The right is a natural right, is pre-political, and is therefore not subject to any man made law or institution.

Also, there is no obligation to satisfy the demands of 3rd party interlopers/usurpers asking about your justly acquired property.

Didn’t the Supreme Court in the end rule the bump stock ban was unconstitutional?

If they did, then do nothing and wait for the court to rule.

Google shows the bump stock ban is still in effect. It’s waiting for a TBD review by the Supreme Court, but until they say differently, it’s illegal.

For the brace, if they pass these irrational rules, it’ll take a similar path (despite not being passed as a law). Who knows how long it will take (assuming they choose to act) to just get back to today’s less than ideal state.

Some of the commentary here suggests that the brace itself is under attack and is being banned like the bumpstock, but it’s the pistols configuration that’s under attack. The way I understood this months and months ago, it will probably be a pistol that’s configured with a magnified optic, PEQ, etc.

Yes and no. You are correct, however, to proceed on the “worksheet”, a brace such as an SBA3 has too many points for that one accessory alone, hence that model of brace is de facto banned.

ETA: Not that you can’t still possess an SBA3 and place a brace on a rifle, but as far as a pistol is concerned, it’s contraband.

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Poor choice of words!

I fundamentally disagree with what BATFE is doing in this case, and several other cases, but they are not under any rational context Natzi. Very stupid choice of words.

Semantics, but I suppose the definition of banned is based on how you interpret it, be it outright banned, or defacto banned. Regardless, based on what has been published by the ATF, braces are not being outright banned, nor will they become contraband, or prohibited from use on an AR pistol. The problem is, in a nutshell, the ATF is developing a worksheet outlining what peripherals (accessories) they deem appropriate for use on an AR pistol.

If you think about it, this will be an arduous, uphill battle for them that simply cannot be won as they are very narrow-minded.

because he said rule nazi? I guess I just put it in the same vain as soup nazi, grammar nazi, etc. I didn’t read anything into it.

It’s all socialists to me.

Or Leftists/Progressives/Democrats

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BATF can go screw themselves. I will keep what I have as I have it and not change.