If you were at SHOT and saw that various ATACS items, what is your opinion after seeing it in person?
Not a lot of buzz going on online it seems, other than soldiersystems.com.
What do you feel the pattern is best suited for? ATACS appears to be more brown and tan based than traditional camo with green.
I do like how it breaks up the overall outline when one is wearing full kit and weapon, something the other patterns don’t do as well.
I agree, though I don’t think that the lack of green really does it any harm. Loads of folks have been to Central and South America and seen dudes in dirty kahki hide in desidous and cloud forests just fine. The dark burnt-brown and greyish tones, I think, make up for any true greens.
Definitely viable for our current conflict environments.
I’m biased, though. I fully admit that multicam is impressively effective in the field, but seeing folks walk around in it otherwise…it looks like that person got ass-sprayed by 6 dogs with various intestinal maladies, and a couple of pigeons. Hate it like I hate being woken up from a nap, but it doesn’t have to be pretty to work.
There may very well just be people sick of hearing about new camoflage patterns, hence the lack of buzz. I know I am.
I was very impressed with EOTAC’s new DA pants/smock and the Blue Force Gear 10 Speed Chest Rig. Both were in the new camo at the show. I will say the actual designs of the products utilizing ATACS impressed more than ATACS itself.
It would’ve been cool to see some sort of field demo but…alas…there was none.
When I spoke to the EOTAC guys at the show they made it very clear, the stuff that arrived was very last moment and not representative of the finished fabric/quality so who knows.
I will definitely be getting a EOTAC Combat Smock and Pant though 
I already have the 10 Speed. That was one of the coolest chest rigs I saw at the show 
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I like it, I believe it is the only thing to beat Marpat. I just want to know when I can start buying camies, and hopefully material from diytactical so I can start making my own stuff with it.
I was not that impressed - Is the material available?
If so, is it in final form?
I would have to hunt back through Soldier Systems but i recall a statement saying that they will have other color variants
From the ATACS site:
Q – A-TACS has been described as a universal pattern; so how will it work in a green environment?
A – A-TACS is a universal pattern concept. There will be environmentally specific variations. each of which are in-turn, designed to work in a wide range of settings. The current pattern variant is designed to work in a variety of arid, dry, grassy, rocky or urban environments.
HAHAHAHA. I may never be able to look at Multicam the same again. Still love the stuff though.
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Yes, I agree! That has to be the most “colorful” description of multicam I have ever seen!!
Anyone offering any ACU’s in the ATAC Camo yet?
that’s an oxymoron if i’ve ever seen one.
that being said, it looks like it’ll work well in those specific areas it’s optimized for.
We tried to acquire some 1000d in the ATACS pattern when it first was released.
Was told to wait till after SHOT Show…
We’re still interested in it, but hopefully its not @ Multicam Prices… 
I definitely agree the buzz is way down…
And I also heard through the grapevine materials will be distributed directly through TAG…
Who knows…
CXS
Lets hope it’s not at Multicam prices but I’ll bet it will be. I can see the Multicam getting a bit more expensive while the Army ramps up their demand.
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I had a sit down with them at Shot and they specifically said the cost for materials would be kept below multicam.
Actually it makes sense. The pattern is universal, meaning you don’t need a different pattern for different terrain types. The coloring of the pattern may change depending on the environment.
At least that is what I take it to mean.
That’s exactly what digital has done. Same pattern, different colors. ACU, MARPAT, Desert MARPAT, CADPAT, HajiPAT…
ok, i’m tracking you guys now. pattern vs. colour.
I was a little off too. I had to read it a couple times to be tracking.
I thought it looked good, very good for urban environments which is probably what we should focus on.
At the end of the day though, the USMC still has it right, especially logistically. The fact that their CB gear as well as their belts, t-shirts, boots, etc… all transfers over and the only things they change are blouse, trousers, and headgear is the best route. A universal camo just doesn’t exist. Multi-Cam and ATAC make valiant efforts, but they are still “B” rate across the board, where as having multiple patterns with common gear allows for “A” camouflage without a logistical nightmare on part of the military.
The bottom line is it needs to get un-assed right the fuck now because it’s ridiculous. Right now I have gear in ABU, ACU, Foliage, BDU, OD, Range Green, Coyote Tan, Coyote Brown, DCU, Multi-Cam, black, and 4 shades of spray paint.
Someone mentioned price, Multi-Cam isn’t really any more expensive than anything else, I believe you are talking about Crye’s proprietary designs, which are expensive as shit because of supply and demand. They can charge $180 for a pair of pants and still have a 3 month backorder.
We have been working in ATACS for the past 4 months now. I have personally witnessed a comparative demo with ATACS and Mulitcam that the sniper school put on over here at Camp Pen. It is a very impressive pattern.
I’m interested in it for hunting predators in Southern AZ. Looks like it might work out nicely for that. I’m not nearly qualified enough to give an opinion on it as far as the military is concerned.