Army's new handgun to be designated XM17...

…and evidently they’re considering upgraded ammo as well:

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2015/07/09/Army-includes-special-ammunition-in-hunt-for-new-handgun/5451436465890/

Who are they kidding? I hate judging a book by its cover, but looks an awful lot like an M9!

Maj. Brent Streater prepares for a M9 pistol Competition on Forward Operating Base Slayer, Iraq. The U.S. Army is seeking to replace the M9 with a new handgun. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Matthew Friberg

:stuck_out_tongue:

And they’re switching to hollow points?

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/07/robert-farago/breaking-u-s-army-switching-to-hollow-point-ammunition/

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/07/jon-wayne-taylor/combat-medic-armys-hollow-point-ammo-switch-will-or-should-end-the-caliber-debate/

I actually googled the XM17. I knew it couldn’t look exactly like that!

This is interesting…

http://bearingarms.com/top-three-contenders-u-s-militarys-xm17-modular-handgun-system-contract/

Take Care,

Buzz

That’s grand and all, but the Army isn’t going to be spending any money on it this year. Except to keep the program on life-support.

All of the money previously earmarked for the XM17/MHS program has been reallocated to other programs.

Having said that, it does seem possible that the winner will be a 124-grain 9mm NATO Gold Dot. (And another 200,000+ M9s.)

I’m surprised the Army doesn’t want a manual safety, at least I didn’t see that listed in the requirements.

I bet the Sig 320 will get the nod, if they change side arms at all.

Seriously, whens DARPA gonna come out with man portable energy weapons, PEW’s if you will?

So they finally want a SA auto and wish to get away from the double action hammer guns of 85 and they decide to go with something other than the Glock?!?!

Jesus Christ the GLOCK was made for combat, it’s actually a terrible LE weapon which is why it was nearly universally adopted. But for doing “army stuff” I can’t think of a much better handgun and the three they are looking at seem to be turds in comparison.

Swear to god I will never figure military procurement out.

Why exactly is a Glock ill suited for Law enforcement?

would like to know as well…

Now, this is just a guess mind you, a mere speculation, but it could have, maybe, something to do with the rate of negligent discharges possibly increasing with so called safe action trigger safetyless pistols.

not saying how. not saying why. Just noting that the correlation has been noted more and more often on the internets.

So what you are saying is the LEO’s in almost every other part of the world are better trained and more intelligent in that they don’t shoot themselves than the LEO’s in the United States?

When our agency (2,000 personnel) transitioned from S&W DA/SA pistols to Glock striker fired pistols the rate of negligent discharges dropped dramatically. Our training program was updated and there was more emphasis on trigger finger discipline when we transitioned to Glocks.

It’s a training issue.

This is a huge issue for me. I can’t tell you how many people tell me they want something with a safety or a heavy trigger pull so they don’t have to worry about trigger discipline.

XM17= Glock 17…I can dream!

Yeah like the Brits…lets just adopt the G17 and call it good.

I usually do not advocate following the Brits on anything but I think we’d be safe in adopting the G17.

I agree with adopting the Glock 17. It’s stone ax simple to use under stress and relatively easy to maintain.

Sometimes it pays to follow the Brits. I’ve followed the Brits into a few pubs and it was entertaining to say the least.

At the very least they should spec Glock Mags and force all entrants to use them.

Then NATO should adopt them as STANAG.

Whoa whoa whoa. Slow your roll man!

You’ll be asked to leave northern Virginia using sense like that.