Looks like Armalite is adding a new model to their AR10 line that will use the PMAG.
I haven’t had an AR10 for sometime,but Im very interested in this model.
Hopefully this will mean that Noveske will offer a rifle that will accept Pmags now.
Please…:cray:
Complete awesomeness!
Too bad not that much compatibility with the AR-10Bs - maybe they’ll become a wonder of the preban world.
According to MAW,the 10B is going to remain the primary model and he has no intention to replace it with the 10A.Only two models in the 10A… for the moment…SASS and A4 carbine.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_27/213705_INTRODUCING_THE_NEW_ARMALITE_AR_10A_.html&page=1
Im personally very excited to see the 10A release.Ive been beating around the bush in regards to another 7.62 NATO AR10 based rifle for some time and just could not decide.Been playing around with the 6.5G for the last year,and before that the 6.8SPC,and just cant get the results Im looking for.Particularly hunting purposes.If the 10A turns out to be good to go,the 7.62 will get me back to where I want to be.
They can say that and I see them supporting it for a while but realistically at some point you figure they will move in one direction or the other. I see this being a problem as well just because of the confusion it will end up bringing.
Its good to have options but I have a feeling it will hurt the market for the ar-10b rifles that many of us have.
Thing is the p-mag is pretty much the only good original style ar-10 mag that isn’t expensive.
I’m glad they’re upping their game. I think it will be great to have the option of using Pmags in an AR-10. I hope they sell the receivers as components.
Is there any reason a Pmag lower wouldn’t work with a non-Pmag upper?
That’s a great question! I too would like to know. I’m not an engineer, but the linked drawing looks to have similar/same pin locations.
Yes, as I recall the upper needs to be opened up a bit to accept the KAC pattern mag.
This is good news. I love the AR10, the forged receivers, and the chrome lined infantry weight barrels.
Never had a problem with the proprietary mag thing, but the more options in this case, the better. I’ll buy another in KAC format.
According to a post made by the ArmaLite rep on TOS you would need the lower, upper, mag catch, and bolt stop for use with Pmags.
True,and yes I would also suspect that the future may possibly bring changes in the AR10 product line as it does with any product in time.Good example for me,is I have a heck of a time finding replacement parts for my old Remington 742’s which were in production for over 20 years straight and widely available before being discontinued in 1980 in favor of the Model 4 and 7400.
In that regard,anything that happens to the lineup will likely be completely market driven by consumer demand.
Might also add,best guess,that possibly the competition is making a dent in sales or I doubt Armalite would go through the trouble/expense of bringing on a new line of receivers and model designitions.
If sales are taking a hit,then its either get on board or get left in the dust the way I see it…and there is already alot of dust being stirred up by the competition.
But yes,if the 10A starts out selling the 10B by a wide margin I could see that it would only be good business sense to run with the leading product line.
The same could be said about the 10A, if the 10B sales show to exceed its potential it could also be discontinued in the long run.Strong survives and all.
The 10A and 10B may both have/retain a solid market share ensuring both designs production by increasing Armalites sales.
Regardless,I don’t see Armalite stopping the production on the 10B magazine as they are the sole source as it is.
Personally,I don’t see any reason for Armalite to be restricted to a single design if there is additional,or widely accepted,alternative.In this case,lighter in weight,cheaper to produce magazines acceptable for even more weapons systems,rather than just a heavier,more expensive to manufacture proprietary magazine design.Best of both worlds I’d say and a solid corner in the market to hold with those options being made available from a single manufacturer.
We all know the main advantage the original 10B mag pattern had going for it under the old AWB,and it was a huge advantage during that time.And yes its still an advantage for folks in states that still have an AWB.
But the current production,improved Armalite 10B mags are not modified surplus M14 magazines,so they could be classified the same as the current manufactured PMAG in that regard.But who’s to say if there is another AWB that the folks in charge won’t be so short sighted and ban all new production mags over 5-10 rounds.Heck we could end up with single shot sleds,who knows.
But as it is,IMHO the “legacy” magazine does have its advantages,and Im one of the folks asking for a 10A.
Thats all the shoulda,woulda,coulda and best guess speculation I can roll out on the topic,and I’ll have to go on what the president of Armalite has said so far…10B is here to stay,and the 10A is to compliment the line up.
I will stop rambling and say, as a Armalite owner/customer,Im extremely pleased to see the options being made available by Armalite in the AR10 product line for me to be able to choose what design I would prefer to buy.I think Armalite’s shootin in the ten ring with this move,by not only retaining their current 10B customer base,but also opening the door to customers who prefer the PMAG option with the 10A.
Good news.
Perhaps the impending release of the Colt SP901 isl steering the market more to one generally accept version of the AR .308. I know their being more one than variation has helped keep me away in the past.
Awesome !!
A NEW rifle to use my stockpile of “original” Armalite AR10 mags I have …
from TOS …
"For one, the rifle just looks funny with the Waffle mag or PMag. For some reason, the Armalite AR-10 does not “mesh” well visually with the waffle or Pmags. It just looks wrong. "
Say what ??
I think my Sudanese and NATO AR10s look sexy with waffle mags …
This would make me very happy.
The writing is on the wall. Armalite is following the money on this. Lots of people opt not to purchase their rifles on the basis of the popularity of mag issue. The industry is moving toward standardization of mags consistent with the M110 because ultimately that’s what we want. Compatibility with the military.
As long as we’re talkin perty,I also think the 10A receiver looks more modern/streamlined.In the drawings anyway.
My choice to buy a Bushmaster instead of an Armalite, a few months ago, was mostly due to the 10B magazine.
I am very happy about this new development !
From the tech sheet the upper and lower might be interchangable with LMT/Larue/KAC 308 rifles.
Life is good:D
I really want to believe that Armalite won’t fuck this design up and actually get it to production. I just hope they can do it without the usual quality control problems ALL of their other offerings are beset by.