I’ve heard a LEO say that Police agencies can get new mg’s for around $1,000. I know I would sure love to have a new Colt M4, HK 416, or MP5 for that price. That kind of price tag is a lot closer to what I can afford than $10-$20k.
Edited to add: For the record, I wasn’t trying to stir the pot by my comment. If I could afford to, I would definitely have more tactical gear. Not necessarily because I really need such gear, but it’d be nice to have “just in case.” Hopefully, I’ll be a LEO by next year, so I technically could use such gear for my career FWIW.
Just curious so if you guys could just humor me one this… I see a lot of A1 type auto lowers and only a few newer ones(A2/A3?).
What are your laws regarding M16s?
From what I understand, older ones can be transferred to civis? So how do some get their hands one the newer ones like a auto Bushy lower, a Noveske or an HK?
Lastly, what are your laws regarding civis and US property marked Colts both old and new?
We can only own “registered, transferable” machinegun receivers built before 1986… anything new- noveske, bushmaster, KAC, etc, is either unobtainable or you have to get certification to have them as demonstration models… under the pretense that they exist to show government agencies your product.
Thanks bkb! I guess from “registered, transferable”, anything property marked is impossible to own… Pretty crazy to me esp since they just hand these out as aid or support to other countries.
I’ve always wondered if there is some back door way we could get the registry opened up again. Like attach it to some “gun safety” legislation kind of like how it became legal to buy ammo through the internet.
It would fit the Obama mindset of regerestering firearms since the ATF must approve and register the ownership of FA anyhow.
Never going to happen. The machinegun moratorium itself got passed as an amendment to the “Firearms Owners Protection Act” in 1986 that give us a safe harbor for transporting guns interstate if we pass through communist states like New Jersey where we would otherwise be breaking state law. It was added as a “compromise.”
By the way, when was it ever NOT legal to buy ammo via the internet?
I’ve noticed that. It’s part of the reason why I have never owned an HK - I’d cry if I dropped a $200 magazine and dented it. Well, that and the horror stories about getting parts and service from them.
HK makes good shit- its expensive, prohibitively, even… but good.
i carried a USP45 for a couple years, put about 8,000 rounds through it… LOVED that gun. its basically the only .45 i feel like i shot really well. and i didn’t pay too much for it- got it on some distributer special for $600. when i started looking at going full-size again, i wanted another one- i’d pay $600, but not $850… so scratch that.
The importance of “needing” something is relative to one’s situation. Nobody really needs a spare tire until they get a flat.
I want a fully-automatic firearm (it’s not a weapon) because I enjoy shooting F/A and I can still obtain one. Besides, waiting to obtain one until you are in a situation when you “need” one may be too late. JM2CW.
ZDL-I am going to need you to speak with my wife. I don’t “need” an MG, but I do feel they make excellent investments and should be considered as a percentage of a portfolio. So, I need you to take the heat for me while I eventually enjoy the fun of the gun! Strictly for investment purposes, mind you.
A SMG is not supposed to be an assault rifle and it sure as hell ain’t a pistol. Your statement is about like me dismissing the M-16 because I can’t put it in my pocket like I can a Glock.
Assault rifles do things no SMG or handgun can do.
SMGs do things no assault rifle or handgun can do.
Handguns do things no assault rifle or SMG can do.
An experienced person knows what those things are and selects the most appropriate tool for the job at hand.
I think prices from private sellers have dipped a bit since people need money for other things. One guy I know of has sold off almost his entire collection of NFA stuff (SBR’s, suppressors, and select fire guns). I’ve also seen some Class III shops actually seek to get a premium in this market especially in the months following the election. There’s been a lot of activity with NFA transfers.
I’ve considered getting a few things but it’s really hard for me to justify tying up $20K - $30K in select fire guns. Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy some of the NFA items but the select fire guns are relatively expensive. $12K-$13K for a grease gun (which have a slow rate of fire for a subgun but are fun) just stings. Perhaps if I had Warren Buffett’s money I wouldn’t care as much, but I don’t so I do. -The thing I’m waiting to see is whether inflation will kick in for the regular economy and what it will do to the NFA market.
