i am not sure if this is the correct forum or not…but…hopefully if it’s not, a moderator will put it in the correct place.
sen leland yee has modified SB249: it will ban ANY FIREARM WITH A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE THAT MAY BE ACTIVATED WITH A FINGER OR A TOOL (BULLET BUTTON)
we, in California need your help and support…contact our representatives and voice your opposition to SB249
your state may be next if it’s not stopped here.
more info here:
Leland Yee and his toadies have indeed completely rewritten the law. This law will indeed ban without compensation any BB (or equivalent) equipped rifle with the listed evil features. No pistol ban involved.
I am fortunate to live in a state where the chances of this happening are slim to none. I feel for you. If I were in your situation, I would be looking for work in Arizona.
I have been watching this law very carefully, as the Air Force is likely to move me from Montana, where I’ve built a nice little collection, to California- where most of my stuff is illegal (and there is no provision for military folks).
The law started off as an agricultural bill. After it passed the senate, Yee gutted it and turned it into a ban on the bullet button. After it passed the safety council, and following the Aurora shooting, he gutted it again to change the definition of detachable magazine, effectively banning any configuration.
Those who are fighting the law are keeping their mouths shut, as it is likely Yee’s staff is using the analysis posted on CGF to further “improve” the law. As it stands, if it passes, there is a good chance that 20,000 gun owners will become felons overnight. There is no provision for public notice, no provision for compensation for confiscation. The choices are turn them in for destruction, sell them out of state, or have them confiscated at the time of arrest. CA will not reopen the assault weapon registration list for this.
The staffers are having a twitter war about how it’s OK, since AR owners can just weld the magazine in (because that works so well on anodized aluminum).
There is significant hope that if this passes, a lawsuit can be filed declaring the law unconstitutional, and using the “in common use” clause of the Heller decision. But that would take years to reverse.
I’ve got a dog in this fight, big time. Another good site is:
www.stopsb249.org along with the calguns site.
I’m trying to move north but have family obligations holding me back for now.
As soon as those are taken care of I’m outta here because the antis will NEVER LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE!!!
Thanx, lowdowndad
Here is a quick little fact sheet that was created and is hosted by stopsb249.org I did not create this and am not taking credit for it. I apologize if I’m not supposed to link externally but I want you guys to see what those of us in CA are having to deal with and this is a good overview of SB249.
http://stopsb249.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/sb249_fact_sheet1.pdf
and what happens when this nonsense comes to your state? Do you just pack up and run away or fight it like an American should? California liberalism spreads like a wildfire, just ask Coloradoans how fast it took to turn blue…
My thoughts exactly. If this passes in California it will set precedence and spread like lowspeed says, wildfire. I’m guessing north east would follow next.
I wouldn’t put much faith in Heller, or any other court decisions saving anything, further, the guy on the SCOTUS largely responsible for Heller, has been completely compromised by the Obama administration, further the constitution is simply meaningless, the only thing holding them back at this stage, is the lobbying power of the “industry” itself…
Honestly this fight was lost when they accepted the magazine ban. The bullet button was just a temporary end run around. From there it was inevitable. If anyone thought they would get away with the bullet button forever they were kidding themselves. And now they are fucked. Pretty soon they’ll be like England.
I don’t blame the CA gun owners, there was nothing they could do as they were hopelessly outnumbered and they had no legal recourse that would have worked. The only thing they could do was pack up and leave if they were able to. Otherwise it’s like living in a major city, there is simply some bullshit that you can’t overcome because the scumbags outnumber you and are willing to do things that you cannot in order to impose their way of life on you.
And IF a bunch of CA gun owners did say fuck it and sacrifice their families and future to fight against it with something more than their vote, they wouldn’t have had a chance and their actions would be declared “domestic terrorism” and would be used as a basis for the same gun bans they are now facing. The only difference is they would be dead or their lives destroyed.
In CA if you are a 60s radical who engaged in arson, vandalism, treason or even murder you can be forgiven and will even be respected and/or rewarded with opportunities such as being made a university professor. But gun owners will never be shown the same consideration.
The extremely depressing conclusion I have arrived at is some states are simply lost and it will be everything we can do to try and prevent the same thing from happening in our own states.
Waiting for the resident internet tough guys to show up and call you a defeatist or a coward…
I am hitting the eject button from this hell hole in November and returning to Northern VA. Fuck this place and it’s legislators.
If he can provide an alternate valid solution that I didn’t think of then by all means he can call me names and enlighten me.
I think SteyrAUG nailed it. The bullet button always was a “rule beater” and was doomed to fail from the get-go.
How is changing a bill and not bringing it back up for vote legal?
My hope is that this bill is even too radical for radical Jerry Brown and he vetoes it.
Wonderful question. But that’s what happened.
It hasn’t gone up for a full vote in the state house/senate. But with the politics of California being what they are, nobody is expecting the bill to have a problem there.
Good luck with that, I’ve tried the same thing.
You hope that a gun ban in CA is too radical for radical anti gun folks? You do have a lot of faith about things.
I’m getting the hell out of NYS a couple years from now and never looking back.
To those that would say that this garbage will spread, I doubt it. Free States will see a major influx of free people, bolstering the vote.